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| ankurlodhi |
 Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:19 am Post subject: basics of MQ Broker |
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Hi
I am looking for a book about MQ broker basics and administration. i have found a book, but its quite complicated.
do anyone have link for a better book. |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:30 am Post subject: Re: basics of MQ Broker |
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| ankurlodhi wrote: |
Hi
I am looking for a book about MQ broker basics and administration. i have found a book, but its quite complicated.
do anyone have link for a better book. |
What book did you find? I'd hate to recommend the same one...
The broker is a complicated product.
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| ankurlodhi |
| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| the redbook for MQ broker 6. |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:37 am Post subject: |
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What redbook for broker v6? Does it have a title? An ISBN number?
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:47 am Post subject: |
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The basics of broker are entirely different for at least two types of people: administrators and developers.
You can look at the certification exams, and review the study material they link to. You may also notice that the certification exams link to official training.... |
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| ankurlodhi |
| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:49 am Post subject: |
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the no of the book is sg247137.
and i am looking for the basics of administration. |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:17 am Post subject: |
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"MQ" does not equal "Broker".
Do you want to learn the basics of MQ administration or WebSphere Message Broker administration?
Have you taken the IBM supplied training class? If not, why not?
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| Do you want to learn the basics of MQ administration or WebSphere Message Broker administration? |
The quoted part number is a WMB redbook.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| ankurlodhi wrote: |
| the no of the book is sg247137. |
That book refers to WMBv6.0. Things changed a lot (certainly administratively) between 6.0 and the 7.0 you should be using.
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| and i am looking for the basics of administration. |
What's wrong with the InfoCenter? Assuming you can't or won't get training?
IMHO your quest for a book on WMB administration that isn't "quite complicated" is doomed. Even if you found such a book it wouldn't tell you any of the useful stuff.
Mind you, you could be finding that book complicated because it keeps talking about things your WMBv7.0 install doesn't have or do..... 
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| Do you want to learn the basics of MQ administration or WebSphere Message Broker administration? |
The quoted part number is a WMB redbook. |
Competitors (ie. WebLogic) combine the concept of message queuing and brokering a data object into a single runtime. In the IBM product landscape, queuing messages means WebSphere MQ product and brokering data means WebSphere Message Broker.
Someone may have steered him into the WMB Redbook when he really wants to know how to administer MQ. The original post is somewhat confusing as I think the original poster is also.
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| smdavies99 |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
Competitors (ie. WebLogic) combine the concept of message queuing and brokering a data object into a single runtime. In the IBM product landscape, queuing messages means WebSphere MQ product and brokering data means WebSphere Message Broker.
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Where does WAS fit in then? It can and does use JMS over a variety of transports and can do message transformation?
After all, Websphere ESB (standard) is based upon WAS.
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| lancelotlinc |
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| smdavies99 wrote: |
| lancelotlinc wrote: |
Competitors (ie. WebLogic) combine the concept of message queuing and brokering a data object into a single runtime. In the IBM product landscape, queuing messages means WebSphere MQ product and brokering data means WebSphere Message Broker.
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Where does WAS fit in then? It can and does use JMS over a variety of transports and can do message transformation?
After all, Websphere ESB (standard) is based upon WAS. |
WAS is an application container. IBM does not market WAS as a Message Broker. WebLogic and WESB share alot of traits. I like IBM's positioning of WMB as an "Advanced" ESB. WESB is brittle like JBI (used in ServiceMix or OpenESB).
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| smdavies99 |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
WAS is an application container. IBM does not market WAS as a Message Broker. WebLogic and WESB share alot of traits. |
That does not stop an awful lof of WAS./Weblogic etc customers from using it as one does it? If you read a few of the texts on ESB's they talk a lot about transformation and broking in a J2EE context.
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:55 am Post subject: |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
WAS is an application container. IBM does not market WAS as a Message Broker. WebLogic and WESB share alot of traits. |
That does not stop an awful lof of WAS./Weblogic etc customers from using it as one does it? If you read a few of the texts on ESB's they talk a lot about transformation and broking in a J2EE context. |
I agree with you that people sometimes look for an easy way to do things. People are still trying to use 2004 era technology to implement ESBs. Here is a write-up on JBI and how it contrasts with WMB:
http://www.wikihost.org/w/eventdrivensoa/java_business_integration
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