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elwis
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:02 pm    Post subject: WMQ7 trial on win7 Reply with quote

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Hi all, I was going to play around with MQ/Broker to sharpen my skills and try out some development work.
So, I put the software on a virtual CentOS - no hassle - and tried to put another MQ on the win7 host. However, the installation hung in the end at some textfile(?) and obvisiouly it isn't working as expected, creating a QM results in an error.

Some googling gave me a hint about the gskit making trouble, so I actually wonder if there are any working step-by-step instruction on how to get WMQ7 working on win7?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:10 pm    Post subject: Re: WMQ7 trial on win7 Reply with quote

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elwis wrote:
Hi all, I was going to play around with MQ/Broker to sharpen my skills and try out some development work.
So, I put the software on a virtual CentOS - no hassle - and tried to put another MQ on the win7 host. However, the installation hung in the end at some textfile(?) and obvisiouly it isn't working as expected, creating a QM results in an error.

Some googling gave me a hint about the gskit making trouble, so I actually wonder if there are any working step-by-step instruction on how to get WMQ7 working on win7?

Regards


I've seen some strange behavior on Win7. Can you elaborate about not working as expected and the errors you're seeing?
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elwis
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sure I can.

Like, when trying to create a QM in the explorer it gives me this
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* Command: crtmqm -sa -d DLQ QM_win7
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There are 90 days left in the trial period for this copy of WebSphere MQ.
AMQ8101: WebSphere MQ error (893) has occurred.
exitvalue = 71


Annoying, all I want is a queue so that I can play on the virtual *nix server with the broker.. maybe I should try adding another virtual nix instead, if my RAM will be enough
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did you bounce the OS after install?
This looks like a bad install to me.

Make sure you reboot after the install...
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elwis
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Your right, the install did hang in the last inch, with a message of some amqxxx.txt file displaying for three hours until I killed it.
The question is.. how do I install WMQ on Win7
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elwis
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Think I'll try ActiveMQ, seem to be more windows-friendly and then I can play with a bridge to WMQ
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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elwis wrote:
Think I'll try ActiveMQ, seem to be more windows-friendly and then I can play with a bridge to WMQ


MQ works just fine on Windows 7... There may be some finicky things with the installer, but those should be clearly documented in the installation guide, and are likely a result of Windows 7 security issues.

I understand your point that if you can't even get it to install, then why would you bother to learn it... but I don't see how learning ActiveMQ instead is going to help if the goal is to learn WMQ.

ActiveMQ doesn't map terribly well onto MQ, in terms of application practices and design principles and management and etc. Yes, it's all JMS if you're just using JMS, but the rest of it is just not that similar.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:

MQ works just fine on Windows 7...


And it installs just fine on Windoze 7.
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elwis
PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Interesting, better give it another try then, but I can't understand what's always going wrong.

ActiveMQ is just to get a queue in "the other end", its the broker o *nix that I intend to play with. But I'll give it another shot
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is it really necessary to have "the other end" actually move across a network and OS?

Or can you just trust that MQ will handle that for you? If so, just create two queue managers on your Centos VM.
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elwis
PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That would be my last resort of course, or I just create another lightweight *nix in my virtualbox.
But of course, shuffling files through MQ's is not the main purpose of my development setting, I plan to play mainly with the Broker and MQ API.

Thanks for all your advice
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, again, why are you going to the effort of setting up two queue managers, at all?

You don't need them, strictly, to learn the MQ API or to learn Broker. The only add-ons it gives you is knowing how to move messages between queue managers... And the only bits of that which intersect what you're trying to learn - the mq API and Broker dev - are in addressing messages.
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