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| George Carey |
 Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:05 pm Post subject: saveqmgr comparisons |
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Any nice way to compare the saveqmgr image outputs from two servers to see if they were built with the same objects ?
Using linux ... trying to avoid eye ball checking or writing a perl script, but diff and similar such commands don't get it.
Creation dates of course screw comparisons up but if these could be ignored some how, say by skipping all commmented lines.
It would be a nice add on function to saveqmgr ! Maybe a cmp_saveqmgr command or the like.
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:57 am Post subject: |
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It's probably easier to use diff if you use -1 or --oneLine.
This usecase is what --oneLine and --twoLines was added for.
You might also look at some of the tools available from the forum sponsor MQSystems. There is some really nifty smart compares in ... I think... MQArchitect? |
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| exerk |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
| There is some really nifty smart compares in ... I think... MQArchitect? |
MQDocument has mqdocdiff bundled with it.
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| George Carey |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:09 am Post subject: options |
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I will look at these options.
Thanks,
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| George Carey |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:18 pm Post subject: oneLine |
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Well oneLine ... appears to pinpoint an object difference, say in a define but still need to do a tedious eyeball check to see where the difference is.
Much to be desired in its use. I will check on this mqdocdiff utility.
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:39 pm Post subject: Re: oneLine |
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| George Carey wrote: |
Well oneLine ... appears to pinpoint an object difference, say in a define but still need to do a tedious eyeball check to see where the difference is.
Much to be desired in its use. I will check on this mqdocdiff utility. |
I just store the scripts into SVN and don't use -1 or -2 switch.
The diff utility from SVN quite accurately pinpoints the changes.
If you want a more formalized way and more flexibility in applying changes all around, you should go for the MQSystems stuff.
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| George Carey |
| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:56 pm Post subject: fldiff |
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Not looking for anything sexy at this point just a labor saver.
Haven't played with SVN diff ... I will have to look into it.
Do you have a usage reference, is it a Linux verson control utility like CVS?
Stumbled upon this freeware utility (fldiff) . Looks simple enough to use.
http://www.easysw.com/~mike/fldiff/
May give it a look at.
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| fjb_saper |
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| mqjeff |
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There may also be existing options to your current diff that would help.
but I do encourage you to look at MQDocument. I know Michael has put hard work into making it smart. |
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| PeterPotkay |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
| but I do encourage you to look at MQDocument. I know Michael has put hard work into making it smart. |
We use it. I get an email every morning with MQDocument report showing what if anything got added, deleted or changed on each QM in my environment.
I suppose eventually once all the QMs are at MQ 7.0.1 I should start using Configuration Events to get real time notifications of changes, but until then and for the past several years this daily report has been great.
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| George Carey |
| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:42 am Post subject: current environment |
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I would have gotten it already but my current environment is restrictive and would not allow third party software unless I can get access to the source as well ... which I doubt Michael Dag would be interested in doing.
So likely will check out SVN links from fjb_saper ... sounds like all I need.
Thanks all ...
But ... have half a mind to parse up a runmqsc output or saveqmgr output with a perl program into XML and create a simle XSLT template and have a browser display the XML with the style sheet as a niece coding exercise ... which would be the first tiny bit of what M. Dag is doing in Java ... but as everything, time for it is the dependency factor ... were I more a speedy coder(i.e. did coding more frequently) ... however, the task looks straight forward ...
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:47 am Post subject: Re: current environment |
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| George Carey wrote: |
| ... however, the task looks straight forward ... |
Runmqsc output is not as straightforward as one might think.
If you are only trying to describe objects that can be DEFINE, it is not too bad.
But when you try and look at other things, it's trickier. |
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| Michael Dag |
| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:11 am Post subject: Re: current environment |
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| George Carey wrote: |
I would have gotten it already but my current environment is restrictive and would not allow third party software unless I can get access to the source as well ... which I doubt Michael Dag would be interested in doing.
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If you absolutelt need source code access, that can be arranged... obviously at a differrent price 
| George Carey wrote: |
So likely will check out SVN links from fjb_saper ... sounds like all I need.
Thanks all ...
But ... have half a mind to parse up a runmqsc output or saveqmgr output with a perl program into XML and create a simle XSLT template and have a browser display the XML with the style sheet as a niece coding exercise ... which would be the first tiny bit of what M. Dag is doing in Java ... but as everything, time for it is the dependency factor ... were I more a speedy coder(i.e. did coding more frequently) ... however, the task looks straight forward ... |
you just described more or less how MQDocument is designed, parse anything that comes out of MQ includeing MAKEDEF, turn it into XML and use XSLT and some java tools to analyse/compare/merge data ... 
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| zpat |
| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| This is a job for a GUI, try examdiff. |
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