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sjmcin
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:52 am    Post subject: reading writing without MQ server Reply with quote

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A client feels that any messaging middleware is overkill for his particular purpose but wishes to interface to a third-party system that offers only a MQ connection.

Is there something that could be connected to the MQ connector of the third-party system that would allow messages to be posted/received without any MQ server or other messaging middleware ?

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Vitor
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: reading writing without MQ server Reply with quote

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sjmcin wrote:
Is there something that could be connected to the MQ connector of the third-party system that would allow messages to be posted/received without any MQ server or other messaging middleware ?


If the "MQ Connector" offered by the third party is actually a queue manager (the server-side WMQ software supports a number of configurations) then you can use the WMQ client, linked with your application, to connect to it with appropriate configuration and parameters on both sides.

There's a wealth of information on this, along with many discussions in here on the pros & cons of using client connections in various scenarios.
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This third-party application uses the IBM MQ client library and is dependent on a queue for it to read/write messages to.

The client really would have been happy with a flat-file interface between his system and third-party system and is not thrilled to have to deal with messaging middleware that he thinks is not needed for his purpose.

The client is looking for the cheapest and simplest way to be able to read/write messages to this third-party system.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sjmcin wrote:
This third-party application uses the IBM MQ client library and is dependent on a queue for it to read/write messages to.


If that's a dependancy of the application your client really needs to take this up with the vendor.

sjmcin wrote:
The client is looking for the cheapest and simplest way to be able to read/write messages to this third-party system.


Again, ask the vendor what the options are. If it's currently using the WMQ client library then that's specific to the WMQ server software. Think of it as the application having a DB2 client linked with it; you use DB2 or nothing.

If the third party is using "MQ" but they've achived this by using JMS then any JMS provider will work, including WMQ (which supports JMS). Again, it's like using JDBC rather than the DB2 client.

But I think if this thing needed JMS they'd have said JMS rather than WMQ.

Slightly off topic, but if your client does want to use WMQ why are they using / buying a third party application that relies on it? Surely this roadblock would have come up at some point in the procurement process?
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http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv7/v7r0/topic/com.ibm.mq.csqzau.doc/ts22210_.htm

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WebSphere MQ bridge for HTTP

With WebSphere® MQ bridge for HTTP, client applications can exchange messages with WebSphere MQ without the need to install a WebSphere MQ client. You can call WebSphere MQ from any platform or language with HTTP capabilities.

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PeterPotkay wrote:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv7/v7r0/topic/com.ibm.mq.csqzau.doc/ts22210_.htm

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WebSphere MQ bridge for HTTP

With WebSphere® MQ bridge for HTTP, client applications can exchange messages with WebSphere MQ without the need to install a WebSphere MQ client. You can call WebSphere MQ from any platform or language with HTTP capabilities.


Yes, but this looks like it's to connect to a queue manager without a client. If this application has a client already and they don't want to install a queue manager would this help?
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