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Senthamizh
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:00 pm    Post subject: Object is in use Reply with quote

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Hi

I have a MQ based (MQ Input and MQ Output) flow deployed and running in broker. The output queue is an alias queue(Test_Out), pointing to a local queue(Test_App1_Out).

I have an requirement to change the base queue of the alias queue to some other local queue(Test_App2_Out).

Since the flow is running, the OpenInputCount of the local queue is "1", and i get "Object is in use" error when i used the following commands.

1) DEFINE QALIAS(Test_Out) TARGQ(Test_App2_Out) REPLACE
2) ALTER QALIAS(Test_Out) TARGQ(Test_App2_Out)

Even if i stop the flow, the OpenInputCount is not changing to "0".

I also tried using ALTER QALIAS(Test_Out) TARGQ(Test_App2_Out) FORCE.

It got changed succesfully, but while testing, i got an error MQRC 2041, saying "not able to write to queue" as the object definition is changed."

Can anyone let me know, When will the flow actually release the handle from the queue making the OpenInputCount as 0?
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smdavies99
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The way i'd do it would be:-

1) Delete the flow
2) Apply the WMQ Changes with a script!
3) Check that everything was ok
4) Re-deploy the flow
5) ***** Important ****** Check the logs for errors with the flow not being able to open the input Queue. If error, correct your script and repeat from step 1.

You would be surprised how many times that I've seen the last step omitted and then you get complaints that it is no longer working.
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Senthamizh
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi, Thanks for the reply,

But is there any way of achieving this without removing the flow?
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Vitor
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Senthamizh wrote:
But is there any way of achieving this without removing the flow?


The only alternative is to stop it.
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Senthamizh
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I tried, but the handle to the Queue is not released when the flow is stopped. The openinputcount still remains as 1.

The openinputcount is changed to '0', only when the flow is removed.
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You have failed to specify what version of broker you are using.

The behavior of the MQInput node when it is part of a stopped flow is different (i.e. *better*) in newer versions of Broker.
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smdavies99
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You could always stop the Broker. Make the canges and restart. That way you don't have to remove the flow.

If the Input Handle is not getting released after stopping the flow then killing the EG prosess (aka DataFlowEngine) will also release it. This is a pretty drastic measure though.

Out of interest, exactly why don't you want to re-deploy the flow?
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Another option in older Brokers (where stopping the flow doesn't stop it ) is to mqsireload the execution group that has the flow whose queue you force changed. That's sometimes better than restarting the whole Broker.
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Senthamizh
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, a restart of the execution group after using the force option worked fine.

I use broker version 5.3

@ smdavies - The change is not done in one flow, there are quite some flows in which change has to be made, hence redeploying the flow wouldn't be a good option.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Senthamizh wrote:
I use broker version 5.3

No such animal. Maybe you using MQ 5.3, but there was never a Broker 5.3.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PeterPotkay wrote:
Senthamizh wrote:
I use broker version 5.3

No such animal. Maybe you using MQ 5.3, but there was never a Broker 5.3.


And even if there was, it would be out of support. And also "older" and therefore "worse".
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