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zhanghz
PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:06 am    Post subject: ALTER QL TRIGGER successful, but DIS QL TRIGGER still NOTRIG Reply with quote

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A queue is NOTRIGGER. Tried ALTER it to TRIGGER. There are messages inside the queue while doing the alter. ALTER showed successful, but DIS QL TRIGGER shows NOTRIGGER.

What might be the reason? And how to change it to TRIGGER?

It's a queue in message broker.

This is on z/OS. But I thought this might not limited to just z/OS, so I posted it here.
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Vitor
PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:19 am    Post subject: Re: ALTER QL TRIGGER successful, but DIS QL TRIGGER still NO Reply with quote

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zhanghz wrote:
A queue is NOTRIGGER. Tried ALTER it to TRIGGER. There are messages inside the queue while doing the alter. ALTER showed successful, but DIS QL TRIGGER shows NOTRIGGER.


Normal or transmit queue?

What kind of trigger?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What do you mean, "it's a queue in message broker"?
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kevinf2349
PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What is the trigger type? DEPTH by any chance?
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zhanghz
PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To Vitor and kevin: it's a normal local queue. Trigger type FIRST.

to jeff: It's a queue defined in a qmgr that is used by a MB, which WBIFN is conencted to. I thought to give as much information as possible, didn't mean to cause any confusion.

to all:
This was resolved. Application team changed something, then I was able to set TRIGGER on. As I was hurrying to leave office, I didn't wait to ask for details on what was changed. Will get some information on Monday. Thought someone might have encountered this, thus the post..
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zhanghz
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i checked with a guy from the application team. I was told that there was a physical dataset on Mainframe that stores messages that would be in the queue whose TRIGTYPE I was trying to change. The physical dataset was full, and the tryigger was disabled by one of application's programs.

After the application team emptied the dataset, I could change the TRIGTYPE.

But I don't understand how the program can control the processing of messages. I mean, when the programs turns the trigger off, if there are still messages in the queue, the triggered program will still continue to process all the rest of messages. It's not like the triggered program will suspend processing messages the second the trigger is turned off.

Also I don't understand how changing queue's attribute ca be locked by a program. Is it possible? Looping without commiting?
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