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| Monk |
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can we do application integration with Process server?
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:08 am Post subject: Re: application integration with Process server? |
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| can we do application integration with Process server? |
No - Process Server sits in a corner by itself and doesn't talk to anything else. 
Are you doing some kind of evaluation WF v Process Server? You seem to be posting a lot of management style questions.
To answer properly, Process Server is part of the IBM ESB offering.
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Are you doing some kind of evaluation WF v Process Server? You seem to be posting a lot of management style questions.
YES 
we are absolutetly no work in WF so if we bring in WPS , we will get some new work to do..thats the only reason I m pushing management into buying WPS...other than that its of no use to all to the Business / Client..
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| AkankshA |
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we are absolutetly no work in WF so if we bring in WPS , we will get some new work to do..thats the only reason I m pushing management into buying WPS...other than that its of no use to all to the Business / Client.. |
i wander if at all this reason alone is enough for buying a new license of WPS...
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I wonder if it's possible to buy a new license for WorkFlow.
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you wander correctly my friend 
However..if you think..WPS is better than MQ workflow in anyway..please let me know..
I also know the end of support and all that..but apart from that..
Also we will not be using anything near SOA and WPS is all SOA if i m not wrong..
I dont know Why IBM thinks that everyone will jump on the SOA bandwagon just because they did..
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| Monk wrote: |
| WPS is all SOA if i m not wrong.. |
It depends a lot how you use it. But I do agree that it sounds like you will not be using the full pallette of features.
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| I dont know Why IBM thinks that everyone will jump on the SOA bandwagon just because they did.. |
- SOA is the bandwaggon everyone has already jumped on
- they're IBM
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| - SOA is the bandwaggon everyone has already jumped on |
My client is the biggest player in the car manufacturing industry..and thy have no idea what SOA even means..
so my client is not on the SOA bandwagon..
Just thought i would correct you.
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| Monk wrote: |
My client is the biggest player in the car manufacturing industry..and thy have no idea what SOA even means..
so my client is not on the SOA bandwagon.. |
One of the biggest players in the car manufacturing industry is currently getting huge government bailouts. Size is not everything. Though the reason for their problems may be clearer if they share your client's relaxed attitude to out-of-support software, and their belief that it's always going to work.
When I said "everyone", I was speaking more colloquially. A quick glance at any trade publication will show you how many businesses "everyone" is, though I accept your client is clearly not part of "everyone".
At least if they're that large a customer, you should have no trouble getting IBM to sell you a new WF license in spite of any initial reluctance to do so.
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| When I said "everyone", I was speaking more colloquially. A quick glance at any trade publication will show you how many businesses "everyone" is, though I accept your client is clearly not part of "everyone". |
Fair enough...
I guess we just live on different continents..
Some continents prefer SOA , some dont..
Thats all i m saying...
I dont want to get in to any flamewars..but thats a fact..
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| - SOA is the bandwaggon everyone has already jumped on |
My client is the biggest player in the car manufacturing industry..and thy have no idea what SOA even means..
so my client is not on the SOA bandwagon..
Just thought i would correct you.
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Trust me, if they truly are among the big players in the car manufacturing industry they probably have a SOA project or 2 around.
They just might not be interested in SOA for the part of the project you come in with. If their main exchange is SAP-IDOCS they don't need SOA for that part. Or EDI with ANSI X12 etc... 
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Some continents prefer SOA , some dont..
Thats all i m saying...
I dont want to get in to any flamewars..but thats a fact..
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It's horses for courses. And SOA will last just as long as it takes The Next Big Thing to be devised. When "everyone" will jump on that bandwaggon!
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