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samsam007
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for all the replies.
Here is some notes. The external apps have "Message Service Client for .NET" installed and I will assumed the apps will use MQGET to retrieve message from the "*SEND" queues from QM.ITSMMS in Cluster SIG.
There are also some stream queues and control queues defined in the QM.ITSMMS as well in order to implement publish and subscribe communication .

Here is my one more try. Please see the code below:

crtmqm -u SYSTEM.DEAD.LETTER.QUEUE ITSMMS
strmqm ITSMMS
runmqsc ITSMMS << EOF
ALTER QMGR REPOS(SIG)
ALTER QLOCAL(SYSTEM.DEAD.LETTER.QUEUE) DEFPSIST(YES) MAXMSGL(104857600)
DEFINE CHANNEL(TO.ITSMMS) CHLTYPE(CLUSRCVR) TRPTYPE(TCP) CONNAME('ITSMMS(2187)') CLUSTER(SIG) DESCR('TCP Cluster-receiver channel for queue manager ITSMMS') MCAUSER(NOUSER) REPLACE
DEFINE CHANNEL(TO.ITSMMS2) CHLTYPE(CLUSSDR) TRPTYPE(TCP) CONNAME('ITSMMS2(2188)') CLUSTER(SIG) DESCR('TCP Cluster-sender channel from ITSMMS to repository at ITSMMS2(NOUSER) MCAUSER() REPLACE

DEFINE QLOCAL('CLUS.TDCS.SEND') REPLACE GET(ENABLED) DESCR('TDCS app gets message from') USAGE(NORMAL)
DEFINE QLOCAL('CLUS.TTS.SEND') REPLACE GET(ENABLED) DESCR('TTS app gets message from') USAGE(NORMAL)
DEFINE QLOCAL('CLUS.TSS.SEND') REPLACE GET(ENABLED) DESCR('TSS app gets message from') USAGE(NORMAL)
DEFINE QLOCAL('CLUS.RIDE.SEND') REPLACE GET(ENABLED) DESCR('RIDE app gets message from') USAGE(NORMAL)
DEFINE QLOCAL('CLUS.FCSS.SEND') REPLACE GET(ENABLED) DESCR('FCSS app gets message from') USAGE(NORMAL)

DEFINE QALIAS('TDCS.SEND.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TDCS alias queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('CLUS.TDCS.SEND')
DEFINE QALIAS('TTS.SEND.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TTS alias queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('CLUS.TDCS.SEND')
DEFINE QALIAS('TSS.SEND.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TSS alias queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('CLUS.TDCS.SEND')
DEFINE QALIAS('RIDE.SEND.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('RIDE alias queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('CLUS.TDCS.SEND')
DEFINE QALIAS('FCSS.SEND.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('FCSS alias queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('CLUS.FCSS.SEND')

DEFINE QLOCAL('TDCS.STREAM') REPLACE DESCR('TDCS Stream queue')
DEFINE QLOCAL('TTS.STREAM') REPLACE DESCR('TTS Stream queue')
DEFINE QLOCAL('TSS.STREAM') REPLACE DESCR('TSS Stream queue')
DEFINE QLOCAL('RIDE.STREAM') REPLACE DESCR('RIDE Stream queue')
DEFINE QLOCAL('FCSS.STRAM') REPLACE DESCR('FCSS Stream queue')

DEFINE QALIAS('TDCS.PUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TDCS alias Stream queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TDCS.STREAM')
DEFINE QALIAS('TTS.PUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TTS alias Stream queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TTS.STREAM')
DEFINE QALIAS('TSS.PUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TSS alias Stream queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TSS.STREAM')
DEFINE QALIAS('RIDE.PUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('RIDE alias Stream queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('RIDE.STREAM')
DEFINE QALIAS('FCSS.PUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('FCSS alias Stream queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('FCSS.STREAM')

DEFINE QLOCAL('TDCS.CONTROL') REPLACE DESCR('TDCS Control queue')
DEFINE QLOCAL('TTS.CONTROL') REPLACE DESCR('TTS Control queue')
DEFINE QLOCAL('TSS.CONTROL') REPLACE DESCR('TSS Control queue')
DEFINE QLOCAL('RIDE.CONTROL') REPLACE DESCR('RIDE Control queue')
DEFINE QLOCAL('FCSS.CONTROL') REPLACE DESCR('FCSS Control queue')

DEFINE QALIAS('TDCS.SUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TDCS alias Control queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TDCS.CONGTROL')
DEFINE QALIAS('TTS.SUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TTS alias Control queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TTS.CONTROL')
DEFINE QALIAS('TSS.SUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TTS alias Control queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TTS.CONTROL')
DEFINE QALIAS('RIDE.SUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('RIDE alias Control queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('RIDE.CONTROL')
DEFINE QALIAS('FCSS.SUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('FCSS alias Control queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('FCSS.CONTROL')

DEFINE LISTENER (ITSMMS.LISTENER) TRPTYPE(TCP) CONTROL(QMGR) PORT(2187)
START LISTENER(ITSMMS.LISTENER)
EOF
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You don't appear to have any queues in the SIG cluster. How many other QMs are going to be in the cluster? All those other QMs won't be able to "see" all the local queues on this QM unless you cluster them.

Please read the MQ Clusters Manual, and follow the very detailed steps it provides to create a cluster.
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samsam007
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PeterPotkay wrote:
You don't appear to have any queues in the SIG cluster. How many other QMs are going to be in the cluster? All those other QMs won't be able to "see" all the local queues on this QM unless you cluster them.

Please read the MQ Clusters Manual, and follow the very detailed steps it provides to create a cluster.


There is another Qmgr - QM.ITSMMS2 defined in the first few lines of my code.
I thought as long as I create queues in the QM in Cluster, these queues will be available to the other Qmgrs within the Cluster?

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samsam007
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

I added CLUSTER(SIG) at the end of each QLOCAL.
If I want to duplicate the QM.ITSMMS Qmgr to another Qmgr within the Cluster, can I simply copy all QLOCAL and QALIIAS rules from QM.ITSMMS?

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samsam007
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here is the MQSC scripts for two QMGRs in a cluster (SIG):

crtmqm -u SYSTEM.DEAD.LETTER.QUEUE ITSMMS
strmqm ITSMMS
runmqsc ITSMMS << EOF
ALTER QMGR REPOS(SIG)
ALTER QLOCAL(SYSTEM.DEAD.LETTER.QUEUE) DEFPSIST(YES) MAXMSGL(104857600)
DEFINE CHANNEL(TO.ITSMMS) CHLTYPE(CLUSRCVR) TRPTYPE(TCP) CONNAME('ITSMMS(2187)') CLUSTER(SIG) DESCR('TCP Cluster-receiver channel for queue manager ITSMMS') MCAUSER(NOUSER) REPLACE
DEFINE CHANNEL(TO.ITSMMS2) CHLTYPE(CLUSSDR) TRPTYPE(TCP) CONNAME('ITSMMS2(2188)') CLUSTER(SIG) DESCR('TCP Cluster-sender channel from ITSMMS to repository at ITSMMS2') MCAUSER(NOUSER) REPLACE

DEFINE QLOCAL('CLUS.TDCS.SEND') REPLACE GET(ENABLED) DESCR('TDCS app gets message from') USAGE(NORMAL) CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('CLUS.TTS.SEND') REPLACE GET(ENABLED) DESCR('TTS app gets message from') USAGE(NORMAL) CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('CLUS.TSS.SEND') REPLACE GET(ENABLED) DESCR('TSS app gets message from') USAGE(NORMAL) CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('CLUS.RIDE.SEND') REPLACE GET(ENABLED) DESCR('RIDE app gets message from') USAGE(NORMAL) CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('CLUS.FCSS.SEND') REPLACE GET(ENABLED) DESCR('FCSS app gets message from') USAGE(NORMAL) CLUSTER(SIG)

DEFINE QALIAS('TDCS.SEND.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TDCS alias queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('CLUS.TDCS.SEND')
DEFINE QALIAS('TTS.SEND.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TTS alias queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('CLUS.TDCS.SEND')
DEFINE QALIAS('TSS.SEND.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TSS alias queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('CLUS.TDCS.SEND')
DEFINE QALIAS('RIDE.SEND.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('RIDE alias queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('CLUS.TDCS.SEND')
DEFINE QALIAS('FCSS.SEND.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('FCSS alias queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('CLUS.FCSS.SEND')

DEFINE QLOCAL('TDCS.STREAM') REPLACE DESCR('TDCS Stream queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('TTS.STREAM') REPLACE DESCR('TTS Stream queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('TSS.STREAM') REPLACE DESCR('TSS Stream queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('RIDE.STREAM') REPLACE DESCR('RIDE Stream queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('FCSS.STRAM') REPLACE DESCR('FCSS Stream queue') CLUSTER(SIG)

DEFINE QALIAS('TDCS.PUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TDCS alias Stream queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TDCS.STREAM')
DEFINE QALIAS('TTS.PUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TTS alias Stream queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TTS.STREAM')
DEFINE QALIAS('TSS.PUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TSS alias Stream queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TSS.STREAM')
DEFINE QALIAS('RIDE.PUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('RIDE alias Stream queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('RIDE.STREAM')
DEFINE QALIAS('FCSS.PUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('FCSS alias Stream queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('FCSS.STREAM')

DEFINE QLOCAL('TDCS.CONTROL') REPLACE DESCR('TDCS Control queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('TTS.CONTROL') REPLACE DESCR('TTS Control queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('TSS.CONTROL') REPLACE DESCR('TSS Control queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('RIDE.CONTROL') REPLACE DESCR('RIDE Control queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('FCSS.CONTROL') REPLACE DESCR('FCSS Control queue') CLUSTER(SIG)

DEFINE QALIAS('TDCS.SUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TDCS alias Control queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TDCS.CONGTROL')
DEFINE QALIAS('TTS.SUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TTS alias Control queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TTS.CONTROL')
DEFINE QALIAS('TSS.SUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TTS alias Control queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TTS.CONTROL')
DEFINE QALIAS('RIDE.SUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('RIDE alias Control queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('RIDE.CONTROL')
DEFINE QALIAS('FCSS.SUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('FCSS alias Control queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('FCSS.CONTROL')

DEFINE LISTENER (ITSMMS.LISTENER) TRPTYPE(TCP) CONTROL(QMGR) PORT(2187)
START LISTENER(ITSMMS.LISTENER)
EOF

crtmqm -u SYSTEM.DEAD.LETTER.QUEUE ITSMMS2
strmqm ITSMMS2
runmqsc ITSMMS2 << EOF
ALTER QMGR REPOS(SIG)
ALTER QLOCAL(SYSTEM.DEAD.LETTER.QUEUE) DEFPSIST(YES) MAXMSGL(104857600)
DEFINE CHANNEL(TO.ITSMMS2) CHLTYPE(CLUSRCVR) TRPTYPE(TCP) CONNAME('ITSMMS2(2188)') CLUSTER(SIG) DESCR('TCP Cluster-receiver channel for queue manager ITSMMS2') MCAUSER(NOUSER) REPLACE
DEFINE CHANNEL(TO.ITSMMS) CHLTYPE(CLUSSDR) TRPTYPE(TCP) CONNAME('ITSMMS(2187)') CLUSTER(SIG) DESCR('TCP Cluster-sender channel from ITSMMS2 to repository at ITSMMS') MCAUSER(NOUSER) REPLACE

DEFINE QLOCAL('CLUS.TDCS.SEND') REPLACE GET(ENABLED) DESCR('TDCS app gets message from') USAGE(NORMAL) CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('CLUS.TTS.SEND') REPLACE GET(ENABLED) DESCR('TTS app gets message from') USAGE(NORMAL) CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('CLUS.TSS.SEND') REPLACE GET(ENABLED) DESCR('TSS app gets message from') USAGE(NORMAL) CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('CLUS.RIDE.SEND') REPLACE GET(ENABLED) DESCR('RIDE app gets message from') USAGE(NORMAL) CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('CLUS.FCSS.SEND') REPLACE GET(ENABLED) DESCR('FCSS app gets message from') USAGE(NORMAL) CLUSTER(SIG)

DEFINE QALIAS('TDCS.SEND.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TDCS alias queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('CLUS.TDCS.SEND')
DEFINE QALIAS('TTS.SEND.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TTS alias queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('CLUS.TDCS.SEND')
DEFINE QALIAS('TSS.SEND.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TSS alias queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('CLUS.TDCS.SEND')
DEFINE QALIAS('RIDE.SEND.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('RIDE alias queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('CLUS.TDCS.SEND')
DEFINE QALIAS('FCSS.SEND.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('FCSS alias queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('CLUS.FCSS.SEND')

DEFINE QLOCAL('TDCS.STREAM') REPLACE DESCR('TDCS Stream queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('TTS.STREAM') REPLACE DESCR('TTS Stream queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('TSS.STREAM') REPLACE DESCR('TSS Stream queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('RIDE.STREAM') REPLACE DESCR('RIDE Stream queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('FCSS.STRAM') REPLACE DESCR('FCSS Stream queue') CLUSTER(SIG)

DEFINE QALIAS('TDCS.PUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TDCS alias Stream queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TDCS.STREAM')
DEFINE QALIAS('TTS.PUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TTS alias Stream queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TTS.STREAM')
DEFINE QALIAS('TSS.PUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TSS alias Stream queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TSS.STREAM')
DEFINE QALIAS('RIDE.PUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('RIDE alias Stream queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('RIDE.STREAM')
DEFINE QALIAS('FCSS.PUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('FCSS alias Stream queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('FCSS.STREAM')

DEFINE QLOCAL('TDCS.CONTROL') REPLACE DESCR('TDCS Control queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('TTS.CONTROL') REPLACE DESCR('TTS Control queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('TSS.CONTROL') REPLACE DESCR('TSS Control queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('RIDE.CONTROL') REPLACE DESCR('RIDE Control queue') CLUSTER(SIG)
DEFINE QLOCAL('FCSS.CONTROL') REPLACE DESCR('FCSS Control queue') CLUSTER(SIG)

DEFINE QALIAS('TDCS.SUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TDCS alias Control queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TDCS.CONGTROL')
DEFINE QALIAS('TTS.SUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TTS alias Control queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TTS.CONTROL')
DEFINE QALIAS('TSS.SUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('TTS alias Control queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('TTS.CONTROL')
DEFINE QALIAS('RIDE.SUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('RIDE alias Control queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('RIDE.CONTROL')
DEFINE QALIAS('FCSS.SUB.ALIAS') REPLACE DESCR('FCSS alias Control queue') DEFPSIST(NO) TARGQ('FCSS.CONTROL')

DEFINE LISTENER (ITSMMS2.LISTENER) TRPTYPE(TCP) CONTROL(QMGR) PORT(2188)
START LISTENER(ITSMMS2.LISTENER)
EOF

I hope this time almost right.
Apart from the security, is there anything missing?

I will very appreciate for further comment.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just realised I have to add CLUSTER(SIG) at the end of each alias queue as well.

BTW, What tool can I use to create MQSC scripts easier?
and how to check its syntax correction before execute the script?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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samsam007 wrote:
I just realised I have to add CLUSTER(SIG) at the end of each alias queue as well.

BTW, What tool can I use to create MQSC scripts easier?
and how to check its syntax correction before execute the script?

Thanks

Create the script once, run it on the first qmgr, and use MS03 support pack to save to a file. When you need to create a clone copy the saved file, edit it to delete cluster receiver channels and stuff like that... review it and add what is missing then runit on qmgr 2 etc....
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fjb_saper wrote:
samsam007 wrote:
I just realised I have to add CLUSTER(SIG) at the end of each alias queue as well.

BTW, What tool can I use to create MQSC scripts easier?
and how to check its syntax correction before execute the script?

Thanks

Create the script once, run it on the first qmgr, and use MS03 support pack to save to a file. When you need to create a clone copy the saved file, edit it to delete cluster receiver channels and stuff like that... review it and add what is missing then runit on qmgr 2 etc....


I use WMQ v6.0, do I still need to install the Support Pack?
and how to use the Support Pack to save the first instance into a script file?

Thanks
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IMHO, please do not try to learn everything through posts..

Read up...
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samsam007 wrote:
I just realised I have to add CLUSTER(SIG) at the end of each alias queue as well...


No, you don't...

If I understand your setup correctly, you have three queue managers in the cluster, two of which host the queues and a third that will send messages to the queues.

In the queue managers hosting the queues you do not need aliases, just the locals which must be shared in the cluster. In the queue manager that will send messages you just need the aliases, NOT shared in the cluster.

...or I am totally confused by now!

Please get training, please read manuals, please experiment even if you crash and burn. Learn the basics first because you are in danger of choking on the amount of information you are trying to swallow.
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samsam007 wrote:

BTW, What tool can I use to create MQSC scripts easier?


That would be MQArchitect for some direct simple samples see posts:
http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=36053
http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=38121

More information can be found on www.mqsystems.com

beware:
- this tool costs real money
- your "end-users/customers" will start to understand MQ better (a picture says more than a thousand words)
- the tool itself will not make you an instant MQ expert! (it's no MQ for Dummies!)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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samsam007 wrote:

I use WMQ v6.0, do I still need to install the Support Pack?

Yes you still have to install the support pack (MS03). You can install it to any machine with a client connection to the MQServer or on the MQServer
samsam007 wrote:
and how to use the Support Pack to save the first instance into a script file?
Thanks

Check out the read me file and other samples within the support pack distro.
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