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| samsam007 |
 Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: Is my design on the right track? |
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Hi,
Here is an example I proposed for the design.
The interconnection between Qmgrs and Brokers are shown as below:
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http://www.ip6.com.au/WMQ-Design1.pdf
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The following shown the objects for QM.QMGR1:
QMGR1.ALIAS.RECEIVER.QUEUE
QMGR1.CLUS.RECEIVER.QUEUE
QMGR1.ALIAS.REPLY.QUEUE
QMGR1.CLUS.REPLY.QUEUE
CHANNEL.TO.QMGR1
CHANNEL.TO.QMGR2
CHANNEL.TO.BK1
QMGR1.XMITQ
QMGR1.ALIAS.PUB-QUEUE
QMGR1.XMIT-TO-STREAM.QUEUE
QMGR1.ALIAS.SUB-QUEUE
QMGR1.XMIT-TO-CONTROL.QUEUE
I am not really sure if my design to the above is correct, and it seems there are quit alot objects need to be defined for QMGR1 shown as above.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Check your queues with the name XMIT in it. Doesn't make much sense to me but then it may make perfect sense to you... 
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| samsam007 |
| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
| Check your queues with the name XMIT in it. Doesn't make much sense to me but then it may make perfect sense to you... |
Thank you for your comment.
This is where I still feel confuse.
Since a broker should have a qmgr associated with, I thought I have to create a transmission queue in broker's qmgr to transmit pub/sub request to the control queue in the broker. But I could be completely wrong. If it is wrong, how to correct it?
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| samsam007 |
| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| samsam007 wrote: |
| fjb_saper wrote: |
| Check your queues with the name XMIT in it. Doesn't make much sense to me but then it may make perfect sense to you... |
Thank you for your comment.
This is where I still feel confuse.
Since a broker should have a qmgr associated with, I thought I have to create a transmission queue in broker's qmgr to transmit pub/sub request to the control queue in the broker. But I could be completely wrong. If it is wrong, how to correct it?
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I also found that the "IBM Help System" doesn't mention anything about assoicate Broker with a Qmgr. Its example "Broker configuration stanza" does not mentioned Qmgr at all.
Do I really need a Qmgr to associate with the Broker? or if this only for another Broker product, not WMQ broker? Beg your pardon if I am asking this silly question. As some of the question/answers in this forum confused me with what the IBM Help System told me about.
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| ranganathan |
| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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As you might know, we definitely need a supported version of MQ Queue Manager and a supported Database for a WebSphere Message Broker to work.
As per my knowledge the association happens by properly defining channels between QMs (broker QM, CFGMGR QM) |
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| samsam007 |
| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| ranganathan wrote: |
As you might know, we definitely need a supported version of MQ Queue Manager and a supported Database for a WebSphere Message Broker to work.
As per my knowledge the association happens by properly defining channels between QMs (broker QM, CFGMGR QM) |
in the IBM Help System, I don't see a clue about how to setup a broker and its qmgr as well as its cfgmgr. But I found this confiugration detail in the standalone websphere message broker manuel.
If you know where the document describe how to setup WMQ broker and its qmgr, please let me know. As I only see some very simple configuration examples in the IBM Help System, only tell me how to setup the WMQ Broker alone.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:02 am Post subject: |
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Thanks very much for the link.
I have read it thru, but that is only for WMB. We are using WMQB.
Is there tutorial like WMB for WMQB?
How is the difference bewteen WMQB and WMB when setting up a broker?
As far as I know, setting up a WMQB require only setup some Stream queues and control queues.
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| samsam007 |
| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| samsam007 wrote: |
Thanks very much for the link.
I have read it thru, but that is only for WMB. We are using WMQB.
Is there tutorial like WMB for WMQB?
How is the difference bewteen WMQB and WMB when setting up a broker?
As far as I know, setting up a WMQB require only setup some Stream queues and control queues.
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I will assumed there is no QMGR invoke with WMQB product. To setup communication between external apps and the broker, I only need to sestup the WMQB without touching or setup a QMGR.
Am I correct?
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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The MQ broker comes with WebSphere MQ and will need to setup some additional SYSTEM objects before it can run.
Just like the WebSphere Message Broker it lives on top of the qmgr. Think of all your communications to the broker as going through MQ and the broker is just another application on top of MQ. Enjoy
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| samsam007 |
| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
The MQ broker comes with WebSphere MQ and will need to setup some additional SYSTEM objects before it can run.
Just like the WebSphere Message Broker it lives on top of the qmgr. Think of all your communications to the broker as going through MQ and the broker is just another application on top of MQ. Enjoy |
Are these objects include the following:
- Message flows, (in broker)
- Message sets, (in broker)
- Stream queues (in broker)
- Default control queues (in broker)
- and Configuration manager (not sure whether I need it for WMQB)
- Channels between Broker and its Qmgr (not sure whether I need it).
Please advice.
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Go to the infocenter for the broker and read the getting started manuals...
There should be a link on the left in the "library" page for the broker "library"...
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| samsam007 |
| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
Go to the infocenter for the broker and read the getting started manuals...
There should be a link on the left in the "library" page for the broker "library"...
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yeah, I just re-visited the *library*, the broker part of the IBM help system. It said that the broker of WMQB is part of the Qmgr, it uses the name of the Qmgr but built-in some basic broker features. There is no message flows and message blocks built-in.
I take it what it said. I just added a pair of stream queue and control queue for each of my external application to handle publish and subscription.
Am I correct?
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