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senMQ
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:35 am    Post subject: ulimit Reply with quote

Acolyte

Joined: 14 Aug 2006
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Location: Palo Alto, CA

Initially ulimit on one of servers with a couple of queue managers was set to 2G (default). We had to change this as we were constantly seeing queue file issue on some of our applications queues. So, our unix admin changed the ulimit to be unlimited. (enabled large file size & ulimit for MQ admin user id).

I believe that we have to recreate the MQ queues after ulimit change. We did that for the qpplication queues.

But my question here is how would I do this for system queues. I anticipate the same issue to occur on the system queues also, like on SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE as this is clustered MQ environment.

So, can go I just delete and define the system queue also or use strmqm -c option. If I do this I'll loose all the messages in the cluster repository queue also. So, I've to run a refresh cluster command.

What would be the right approach here?

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fschofer
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knight

Joined: 02 Jul 2001
Posts: 524
Location: Mainz, Germany

Hi,

why you think you have to recreate the queues ?

I remember a similar case some years ago and so far i can remember there was no need for recreation.

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Frank
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Changes to ulimit only take effect on AIX when files are created.

MQ only creates Q files when queues are created.
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't understand though why he would need an XMITQ here SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE to be over 2 GB in size????

NO an XMITQ is not another form of DB. It is not set to be used to store messages....

Do you mean to say you have applications that post messages so fast they are way faster than the channel's io rates??

What are you trying to do??

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senMQ
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Yes, this application sends about 100K - 200K messages at a time. Also, there are other applications that could put upto 100K messages at a time.
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gbaddeley
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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Queue files contain a value that indicates the maximum size to which the file can grow. If a queue was created under V5.3 it will only be 1GB, even if the qmgr was later migrated to V6.0, where the limit is much much greater.

Refer to
http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1474&sid=77249944e0f82e6cb838e25084b2b92f
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21194240
http://osdir.com/ml/network.mq.devel/2006-02/msg00080.html

There is a qm.ini stanza-
TuningParameters:
DefaultQBufferSize=200000
DefaultQFileSize=200000000
This was documented in SupportPac MP01 for V5, but it was removed in the performance report SupportPac for MQ V6.0, probably because the limit was signficantly increased from 1GB in V5 to 2TB (unconfirmed) in V6.
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fschofer
PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knight

Joined: 02 Jul 2001
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Location: Mainz, Germany

Hi,
Quote:

Changes to ulimit only take effect on AIX when files are created.


i always thought you only have to create a new file system with the Large File Enabled for JFS or use JFS2 and then and copy the files to it.

Greetings
Frank
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