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ucbus1
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:00 am    Post subject: Clean up server Reply with quote

Knight

Joined: 30 Jan 2002
Posts: 560

Hi,
I have the following questions and I appreciate if somebody can please provide answers
1. Can the clean up server be started from command line? If so please let me know the command and the parameters I need to pass
2. If clean ups erver is active all the time will it degrade the performance?
3. If the clean up server is in "deffered " state, what it really indicates? Does that mean it need to be started manually? How do I chaned it from "defffered toAQctive state? Do I have to use fmcautil or is there any command line statement?
4. How can I start clean up server to start a particular time and stop? is there any command line statement which lets me do this?
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vennela
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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You mean something other than fmcamain

There should be fmccmain

I think the list is
fmcamain (admin)
fmcbmain (buildtime)
fmccmain (clean up)
fmcemain (exec server)
fmcsmain (shceduling server)

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vennela
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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But I would suggest to use fmcautil to start/stop any server including execution server. All you have to do is pass a file consisting of the options you select when you start fmcautil.

For example to start a cleanup server
fmcautil -u=admin -f inputfile.txt

where inputfile.txt would contain
m
c
u
x
x
x

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jmac
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:26 am    Post subject: Re: Clean up server Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

Joined: 27 Jun 2001
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ucbus wrote:
Hi,
I have the following questions and I appreciate if somebody can please provide answers
1. Can the clean up server be started from command line? If so please let me know the command and the parameters I need to pass

I believe that Venny has already answered this

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2. If clean ups erver is active all the time will it degrade the performance?

It is my opinion that this can have a negative affect on performance. The reason it is set to run in the middle of the night is to lessen the impact of the physical deletes from the database

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3. If the clean up server is in "deffered " state, what it really indicates? Does that mean it need to be started manually?

It means that the server will be started by the admin server at the selected time (default is 0000 - 0600)

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How do I chaned it from "defffered toAQctive state? Do I have to use fmcautil or is there any command line statement?

You can change this in Buildtime via the Networks objects. Just remember when you import into runtime, you will need to start and stop the workflow system to get the updated parameters.

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4. How can I start clean up server to start a particular time and stop? is there any command line statement which lets me do this?

See above... Just change it in Buildtime
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ucbus1
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knight

Joined: 30 Jan 2002
Posts: 560

Thanks for the input.
I have a question.
Our DBA found that there are 44000+odd records on FMCDB table fmc.process_inst . using the query
select count(*) from fmc.process_inst where state=128. Is it an indication that the records are never being cleared or is the figure quite normal in workflow?
And the Cleanup server is set "deferred state". How can I know whether cleanup server has really cleaned up databases/workflow? Is there any log where I can see and say "Yes last night clean up server has run successfully"?

One more question.
It is mentioned that I need to change the "time" on buld time mentioned under Network objects. But I do not see any properties for changing the default timing on the build time model? Can I find out what time the clean up server is set to run using fmcautil?
Please let me know
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vennela
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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You can use fmcautil to see the logs where the start/stop of the servers and other events are logged.

It also has messages like cleanup server stopped abnormally. I am not sure how we can be sure of successful completion of cleanup. But it the cleanup server stops abnormally it would have a message in the logs with the timestamp.
If it simply states stopped I think that's cool

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jmac
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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Since state 128 is deleted, it seems to me that maybe you are never running the cleanup server

Is it possible that you never have the workflow system running between 0000 - 0600 when the Cleanup server should run? Or that maybe you changed the cleanup server to Manual start and have never run it?

Let us know what you find out
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ucbus1
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knight

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Thanks for the hlep.
Could you help on my second question??
Thanks

It is mentioned that I need to change the "time" on buld time mentioned under Network objects. But I do not see any properties for changing the default timing on the build time model? Can I find out what time the clean up server is set to run using fmcautil?
Please let me know
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amittalekar
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disciple

Joined: 03 Apr 2002
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Go to the network tab, right click on DOMAIN , go the properties, select server, select cleanUp Servers
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vennela
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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Naaah
No more spoon feeding.
One last time

You can use fmcautil to see at what time your scheduling server is set to start/stop

fmcautil -u=admin
options are m,c,i

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ucbus1
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knight

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Thanks for the help....
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