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raghav129
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: Broker accidently deleted from MB toolkit Reply with quote

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Hi,

If we accidently delete broker from our Message broker toolkit,how can we make sure that the Broker's UUID is also deleted,So that configuration manager will allow us to add the same broker again?

Thanks,
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqsideletebroker

or in v6.1, you can adopt the broker.

I'd also strongly recommend reading about "mqsisetaclentries", in order to ensure that only the right people are capable of making these mistakes.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jeff did the command change in 6.1?
I thought it was mqsicreateaclentry and mqsichangeaclentry...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:
Jeff did the command change in 6.1?
I thought it was mqsicreateaclentry and mqsichangeaclentry...



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mqmatt
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:41 am    Post subject: Re: Broker accidently deleted from MB toolkit Reply with quote

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raghav129 wrote:
how can we make sure that the Broker's UUID is also deleted

I'm not sure what this actually means.

If you remove the broker from the toolkit (accidentally or otherwise), then if the broker is running, everything will be tidied up for you in the Config Manager; you just need to run mqsistop/mqsideletebroker to tidy everything up on the broker machine.
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sri_csee1983
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dear Friends,

I am not sure abt MB 6. But MB 5, if that has happened, mqsideletbroker does not delete the broker entries in the table cbroker. if v delete the corresponding broker entry in the table 'cbroker' and delete the broker using mqsidelete broker. then after newly creating it. V can add the same in the tool kit. I dont know whether this is applicable for MB6.0 if the other soln is not working, u can try this.
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SAFraser
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In 6.0, couldn't you use the Proxy Exerciser to remove all traces of the broker from Configuration Manager, and create the same broker again in the broker domain (without deleting & recreating the broker itself with mqsideletebroker)?

I'm asking, not telling.
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SAFraser wrote:
In 6.0, couldn't you use the Proxy Exerciser to remove all traces of the broker from Configuration Manager, and create the same broker again in the broker domain (without deleting & recreating the broker itself with mqsideletebroker)?

I'm asking, not telling.


yes.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jefflowrey wrote:
SAFraser wrote:
In 6.0, couldn't you use the Proxy Exerciser to remove all traces of the broker from Configuration Manager, and create the same broker again in the broker domain (without deleting & recreating the broker itself with mqsideletebroker)?

I'm asking, not telling.


yes.

Hmmm.. sort of. In v6.0, if you remove all traces of a broker from the CM repository (the "remove references to a previously deleted broker" thing), you'd still need to recreate the broker using mqsideletebroker/mqsicreatebroker.
You could kind-of get round this by adding the broker back to the CM and setting its UUID manually (very contact admin), but you couldn't then discover and manage any of its existing resources.

In 6.1 you can have the CM synchronize and adopt running brokers, which makes things easier - as Jeff said earlier.
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Playing around in a Lab environment, we deleted the Broker reference via the Toolkit. The actual Broker is just fine, as is the Config Manager. Messages are flowing thru the Broker.

So now we have to get our reference back. I know we just can't add the Broker back in via the Toolkit, since the new reference will have a new UUID. We have to "adopt" the existing Broker.

I searched and searched in the Info Center and all I found was this:

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmbhelp/v6r1m0/topic/com.ibm.etools.mft.doc/an25660_.htm

But these are instructions for if you lose your entire config manager without a config manager back up. Since I have my original config manager in a healthy state, do I just use these instructions but only do Step 4? And then eventually redeploy to pick up the missing references to Message Sets?
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mqmatt
PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, that's fine.. To add a lost broker back to your healthy Config Mgr, follow the instructions from the an25660 topic link you gave, omitting step 1.
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ghoshly
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We can have a simple solution out there... In the error message of the toolkit both the Old and New UUID is present. Just take the Old UUID, go the Proxy exerciser..and there is a button to set UUID for the broker. Set that Old one copied earlier. This has worked for me..
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