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| jefflowrey |
 Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: MS03 "Design Patterns" |
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Following up from this...
How are you all typically using ms03?
Would you like to see additional resources - documentation, sample scripts, etc - to outline, define, or support common usage or automation strategies?
I'm talking about, essentially, an expansion of the hints section of the read.me.
I'm not promising any such for some eventual next release. I'm just asking for community feedback.
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| camauz |
| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:47 am Post subject: Re: MS03 "Design Patterns" |
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In my opinion it might be interesting an additional export format (XML?) I could use to import WSMQ configuration inside an application/database repository. I might parse MQ commands, but a standard format could be read from general purpose software.
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:55 am Post subject: |
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I was going to add a comment along the lines of "additional wish list items will be noted, but not taken as requirements"... but decided against it.
So, yes, this is noted but not taken as a requirement... 
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: |
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We use MS03 Windows Client. Its running on 2 servers in 2 data centers. Each one runs every day, one at 6 AM, the other at 06:30 AM. A script that calls MS03 reads an ini file that contains the connection details for each and every QM I am responsible for.
The script maintains a rolling 30 days of MS03s for each QM. It pipes all its output to a logfile that my monitoring software looks at each day at 7 AM to make sure that MS03 run completed successfully.
If I need a QM backup, I now have one of two places to go look.
If one of the MS03 servers goes down, the other one still runs.
I have all my QM backups on servers other than where the QMs I'm backing up reside.
I use Capitalware's MQAUSX exit to secure the SVRCONN channels that MS03 uses, since it needs full access.
My wishlist for MS03? I way for it to compare yesterday's and today's MS03 for a QM and spit out a report that says these parms changed foir these objects, these objects were deleted, these objects were added. This is a lot harder than it sounds.
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| PeterPotkay wrote: |
| My wishlist for MS03? I way for it to compare yesterday's and today's MS03 for a QM and spit out a report that says these parms changed foir these objects, these objects were deleted, these objects were added. This is a lot harder than it sounds. |
That's why the -1 and -2 switches were added. To make this much easier than it sounds.
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| UglyAngelX |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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We use a batch file that has the connection information in it and goes to each qmgr in term and executes the script.
| PeterPotkay wrote: |
| My wishlist for MS03? I way for it to compare yesterday's and today's MS03 for a QM and spit out a report that says these parms changed foir these objects, these objects were deleted, these objects were added. This is a lot harder than it sounds. |
As for Peter's list as we check our weekly run into subversion, it is easy to use the tool's diff facility. However we use the -1 and -Z switches and the file only gets checked in when something got changed...
In absence of a diff tool or unix type diff the windows fc (for file compare) can do the compare as well. It should be able to spit you out the changes (positions and values) in the file. You may have to open it to see which object got changed as the object name itself is most probably in the not changed, not displayed part...
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
| You may have to open it to see which object got changed as the object name itself is most probably in the not changed, not displayed part... |
I want a manager friendly email report every day that lists each QM and shows me a list of any new objects, al list of deleted objects and for the objects that changed, just that object name and just the attributes that changed. For QMs with no changes, the QM name with the words "No Changes".
I still say this is not as easy as it sounds.  And would be used widely if available.
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| Michael Dag |
| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| PeterPotkay wrote: |
I still say this is not as easy as it sounds. And would be used widely if available. |
please add, if available for FREE 
MQDocument does this and a lot more, including XML/MQSC output 
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