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spidy
PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:51 pm    Post subject: How to point a Web Client to different MQ WF Servers? Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Hi All,

We want to point our Web Client to various WF Servers? Is that possible? If yes, how can we do that? Any good document for reference?

Thanks.
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spidy
PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Forgot to mention. Ours is custom based client and we are using WF 3.6.

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giveashot
PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Installation Guide ch 34 does have your answer. But, I am not sure. Experts mite have better suggestions.
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spidy
PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Thanks giveashot. Yes, I went thru that and we are trying to do that. But, meanwhile I was looking if anybody has done that before and knows about it.

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spidy
PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Hi again,

There is a small doc about it. It says that for each configuration ID separate system group should be assigned. Now, in our case, we have different configuration but all have same system group. Is it possible to point to different WF Servers within same system group.

Suggestions appreciated.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Since the database exists at the SystemGroup level, then you have all of your configurations pointing to the same RTDB. I am not sure exactly what you are wanting to do, but if all of your objects are in the same RTDB, using a different configuration to access that data, is not going to have any affect in my opinion.
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spidy
PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Thanks John.

We have 3 WF Servers, say A for testing and B and C for development. For each WF Webclient we have different URL. The username and password are same for all of the webbclients.

What we are trying to do is having same webclient ie a single URL which cud point these 3 servers. But, according to guide, it is possible if each configuration is assigned to different system groups so that while login we can give the system group name. Now in our case we have same system group. So is it possible whatever we are trying to do?

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I dont think what you are trying to do is possible. AFAIK, you need to have as many URLs for as many WF instances ( System Group / Runtime databases ) you are trying to talk to. Accessing n system groups from ONE URL is not posssible.

This is just my opinion. I might be wrong.
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spidy
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Hi,

We are NOT " Accessing n system groups from ONE URL ". We are accessing ONE system group and want to use one URL to point to 3 different WF.

What you all are saying is right.
"you need to have as many URLs for as many WF instances ( System Group / Runtime databases ) you are trying to talk to"

So, one question here. If we have a common RTDB for these 3 WF servers then can we have a single URL for the webclient which could point any of the 3 server we want?

Thanks again.
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vennela
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think you must be able to do it.
I haven't worked on workflow for a while but I think what you are trying to do should be fairly simple to do.

Do you have a QMGR running for the web client or are you using the MQClient?

If you are using the QMGR, can you see the QMGRs of all the workflow servers in the cluster?

I can't remember if you have to add connect names or not if you are using the QMGR for client, but I am sure you can do that without any problem.
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spidy
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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We are using MQClient for webclient. Is it not possible if it is MQClient?

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vennela
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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spidy wrote:
We are using MQClient for webclient. Is it not possible if it is MQClient?

Thanks.

That shouldn't matter at all.

These are the steps on a high level on how to do it.
1. Create a channel table with all the qmgrs of that workflow servers.
2. Copy that channel table to the location that you specified while creating the web client configuration.
3. Now, add connect names in the workflow web client configuration. This step involves adding the system name and QMGR name

After you do that, whenevr you logon to the webclient, also specify the system and group.
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spidy
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Thanks vennela. I 'll try that out and see if that will work for us.

I might have been confusing so far. Let me just reconfirm if what you said is possible under following conditions.

In fmcrc file I can see that we have 3 different configurations. Each have same FMLconnectname and same system group.

So, for all 3 configurations we have same
MQ QMGR
SYSTEM GROUP
CONNECTNAME

and we have 3 different RTDB for 3 servers.....i guess this voids the possibility of having one URL pointing 3 severs.

Thanks.
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vennela
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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Is the QMGR name same for all the configurations?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Yes it is.
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