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| bobbee |
 Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:43 am Post subject: Client Connect z/OS |
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I am running an Emulated z/OS system on a LINUX box.
First Client Attachment is installed.
So, I installed and configured the Boker and ConfigMgr. QMGR was there. I set up the TOOLKIT on the LINUX system and tried to set up a DOMAIN. N/G. Cannot connect, TIMEOUT.
Set up the MQClient on the same LINUX machine, N/G. TIMEOUT
Set up MQServer on the same LINUX machine. Set up a QMGR. I can client to the Linux QMGR. Cannot Client to the z/OS box. TIMEOUT
Set up a Server to Server SDR.REC channel pair. Write messages to XMIT Q and start channel. N/G TIMEOUT connecting to z/OS QMGR.
Pings back and forth from both sides work
I have FTP'd from the Linux side to z/OS and GET/PUT files.
CSQ6CHIN is running.
LIDTENER is running on Port 1416
Telenet from LINUX to z/OS 192.168.252.171(1416) hangs as expected
Any connection I try I can see it in NETSTAT on the z/OS box.
So.....any suggestions???
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Look for syslog error msgs in both CHIN and MSTR address spaces on zOS.
If you are not a mainframe person, have one of 'em do it. There needs to be SVRCONN channel(s) defined on zOS MQ, listener, ip stack, lots of mainframe stuff.
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| bobbee |
| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Knight
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Yes I am a mainframe person. I just got done installing the Broker from the REL images. Worked out all the issues. Which were alot and have the Broker and ConfigMgr up and running.
Now I am down to the connectivity between the Linux Toolkit and the z/os QMGR. I would have at least thought I would get a 2035 because I have not run the BIPCRACL job yet.
I have tried simple Client install on the Linux side and a connection. That did not work. The I deinstalled Client and installed Server. Tried Client and then set up the DQM between the two thinking the Client Attachment feature was not working. That was a bust.
The connection just times out. I see it though in "NETSTAT" on z/OS under option 6. I can also PING and FTP between the two from either side.
I need some z/OS networking suggestions.
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| wschutz |
| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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BOBBEEEEE... do you see anything in the CHIN log when you do the telnet? ----wayneeeee
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| bobbee |
| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| nope, noting in the CHIN, or anywhere for that matter. I can see the connecting in netstat but no information elsewhere |
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:46 am Post subject: |
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In my limited experience working MQ on z, it is always MF security that takes the longest time to resolve and is the hardest to troubleshoot.
So are you seeing any RACF violations?
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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MVS (z/OS) syslogs will contain channel start/stop/error, along with listener activity and security (RACF) stuff. RACF messages are crystal-clear about what rule was violated, and by whom.
How did you start the client? With MQSERVER=? Post the MQSERVER environment variable you used.
When you say "I have tried simple Client install on the Linux side and a connection. That did not work." What symptoms did you see on zOS?
Did the listener start? Post the CHIN syslog about the listener starting/failing...
Post the SVRCONN channel definition you used on the mainframe qmgr. Is channel-auto def on/off?
MQ z/OS is very chatty. The syslog from MSTR address space and CHIN are loaded with useful info for doing problem determination. Look also at the TCPIP address space syslog. |
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| pinhead |
| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| Are you sure Client is installed on the z/OS side? Believe it or not, it is a seperately installed (and charged) feature unique to the mainframe. You'd have to check with your z/OS system programmers to see if they also installed the Client attach feature, or you can't use client on the mainframe. I don't know why IBM did this (it's free on all distributed platforms), but it's always been this way. |
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| kevinf2349 |
| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| I don't know why IBM did this (it's free on all distributed platforms) |
V6 is also a big upgrade charge on z/OS too. I suspect it is because z/OS shops are cash cows for IBM  Always have been and so they just stick-it-to-the-big-guys to fund the smaller shops. At least that is what it seems like to me.  |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:14 am Post subject: |
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There is no MQ client for the mainframe. But, you can use the client from a midrange platform to connect to the mainframe.
To help resolve your problem, please read prior posts in this thread, and provide some documentation on the symptoms (object definitions, error messages, etc.). |
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| pinhead |
| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:19 am Post subject: More specific z/OS client info |
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| You cannot use the mainframe as a client to connect to a distributed queue manager, but you can connect to a mainframe queue manager as a client. To do that, you have to have the z/OS client attach feature, which is not part of the base MQ install, you have to order (and pay for) it separately. |
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| pinhead |
| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:26 am Post subject: Further SMP/E z/OS MQ Client info |
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| Have whoever is responsible for the z/OS SMP/E MQ install check to see if JMS6007 (the client attach feature) is installed as part of HMS6000(MQ Base product). If not, you won't be able to client connect your toolkit to a z/OS qmgr. Info for this is in the z/OS MQ 6.0 program directory ((GI10-2584-00) |
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| kevinf2349 |
| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| There is no MQ client for the mainframe. |
Yes there is....but it is seperately orderable feature....which Bobbee has already says he has.
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But, you can use the client from a midrange platform to connect to the mainframe. |
No you can't....not without CAF.
I think the issue is that he is trying to go from z/OS as a client. I don't know enough about CAF to know if this is possible. From what I read here it seems that CAF allows client connections to a z/OS qmgr only.
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| kevinf2349 wrote: |
I think the issue is that he is trying to go from z/OS as a client. I don't know enough about CAF to know if this is possible. From what I read here it seems that CAF allows client connections to a z/OS qmgr only.
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No he is trying to reach z/OS from Linux. (The toolkit only runs on windows or Linux platforms and I don't think zLinux is one of them...)
This would have to do with security and MQ setup...
Make sure as well that the user running the toolkit has the authority for the configmgr (see mqsicreateaclentry ...). Make the first entry with the service user for the configmgr. The user creating the acl entry must be authorized to do so.
Enjoy 
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| kevinf2349 |
| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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I stand corrected. I see what he is trying now.
I kind of got carried away while I was on my soapbox about software charges |
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