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LearnMQSI
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:39 am    Post subject: Web Services "Proof of Concept" Reply with quote

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Joined: 20 Aug 2002
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Hi There,

I'm in a process to do a "Proof of Concept" of Web Services application.

My environment is :
WBIMB v6, Toolkit v6, WMQ v6 on Win2000 server.

Initially, I have downloaded a sample web service application and it runs successfully on my server. I have noticed that when I downloaded the sample Web Service application, it created two .mxsd files under Message Set Project i.e. legacyservice.mxsd AND soapenv11.mxsd along with WSHOST_MS1Service.wsdl file.

I know that we need legacyservice.mxsd to map an input XML file to an MRM Message but trying to undersatnd why we need soapenv11.mxsd?

I also like to understand the relationship between .wsdl and message set.

A couple of places, I read that you can generate a message set from .wsdl file or vise versa.

This is my fairly first attempt to develop a web services applicaiton using toolkit v6 under WBIMB v6.

My question is where should I start from? Any help would be highly appreciated.
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elvis_gn
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: Web Services "Proof of Concept" Reply with quote

Padawan

Joined: 08 Oct 2004
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Hi LearnMQSI,
LearnMQSI wrote:
I know that we need legacyservice.mxsd to map an input XML file to an MRM Message but trying to undersatnd why we need soapenv11.mxsd?

I think that message was for maping the input SOAP message and the output SOAP...not sure, tried is some time back.

LearnMQSI wrote:
I also like to understand the relationship between .wsdl and message set.

A wsdl is a just an XML file which tells you what services are provided, the messages used, the structure of the messages used, how to contact this service etc...
For more on wsdl, go to w3schools.com

LearnMQSI wrote:
A couple of places, I read that you can generate a message set from .wsdl file or vise versa.

Yes you can, the toolkit can make wsdl from message sets for sure, not sure of vice-versa.

LearnMQSI wrote:
My question is where should I start from? Any help would be highly appreciated.

You have started at a good place, maybe u should also look at the way the sample was made, it is given in the help...also learn about SOAP, wsdl.

Use the netTool...search here in the forum...lots of links for it.

Best of luck.

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vennela
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes you can, the toolkit can make wsdl from message sets for sure, not sure of vice-versa.

You can do it both ways.

You need the SOAP message definition because you will have to wrap your actual data inside the SOAP body. Now SOAP has it's own structure with Envelope, Header Body etc. This is all done for you and you can import it and use it directly
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LearnMQSI
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Joined: 20 Aug 2002
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Hi elvis_gn & vennela,

Thank you so much for putting shed on this topic. It is really helping me understanding SOAP/Web Services.

So, vennela, if I understand correctly, it is NOT required to have a soapenv11.mxsd.

lets say I don't generate soapenv11.mxsd message definition file, how would I handle this web services? I mean to say, what other alternative I have?

Thanks in advance for all your help!!!
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elvis_gn
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Padawan

Joined: 08 Oct 2004
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Hi LearnMQSI
LearnMQSI wrote:
So, vennela, if I understand correctly, it is NOT required to have a soapenv11.mxsd.

lets say I don't generate soapenv11.mxsd message definition file, how would I handle this web services? I mean to say, what other alternative I have?

I don't think vennela was talking about the soapenv11.mxsd, but wsdl<-->msg defn in general.

You can work with webservices without the use of message sets
http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=29308&highlight=webservices

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LearnMQSI
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Joined: 20 Aug 2002
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Hi elvis_gn,

Thanks a lot for pointing it out and for the message set / web services discussion link.

I love it.

I will go through it.

Thank you again!!!
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