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xavier2004
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:28 am    Post subject: JMS MQ Architecture Implementation Reply with quote

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Hi All,

I have an asincronous application that act as gateway from VAX to JAVA applications.

This Infrastructure is based on WebsphereMQ Webshphere6.0 and VAX+WebspherMQ on the host part.

Messages on the Queue are read by an MDB that executes operations.



VAX ---------->WSMQ queue 1---------------->WS JMS(MDB1)


By this architecture application is difficult to scale, if adds queue, it's necessary to redeploy the
application with 2 or more MDB.



VAX ---------->WSMQ queue 1---------------->WS JMS(MDB1)

VAX ---------->WSMQ queue 2---------------->WS JMS(MDB2)


VAX ---------->WSMQ queue N---------------->WS JMS(MDBN)



There is some possible work on java architecture to increase scalability?

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vennela
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I quite didn't understand what you are saying, but you can configure multiple MDBs to one MQ Queue.
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xavier2004
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's possiple to join/map multiple queue from MQ to WAS ?...

ex


MQ Q1
\
MQ Q2 -+------------------------------->WAS JMS Q1
/
MQ Q3


I appreciate your help

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vennela
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No
But:

MQ Q ------> MDB1, MDB2, MDB3
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Usually, the data in different queues is different and requires different logic to process.

So usually there is a good reason to have more than one MDB for different queues.
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8davitt
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would be interested to know how you send data from a VAX system to MQ. As far as I am aware there are no supported MQ options for VAX hardware.

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xavier2004
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry for the mistake..... A(I)X not (V)AX....

About more MDB on one queue it's not possible have more listener on one QUEUE it's true?


I appreciate all helps.

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vennela
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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one queue it's not possible have more listener on one QUEUE it's true?

No it's not true
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xavier2004
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Intersting... so i can deploy an application with more MBD & Listener....and activate them only when necessary.

Do you can show me some info that inform about "WebSphere Application Server Port Listener Architecture"? I found this intersting article but say nothing about more Listener on same queue.

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/techarticles/0503_bhasin/0503_bhasin.html

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/techarticles/0602_kesavan/0602_kesavan.html

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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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More than one JMS Destination can easily point to the same MQ Queue.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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At the same time remember that you can have more than one instance of the same MDB running on one queue. You just need to plug in the number of instances in the config of the MDB.

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mqmaniac
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"At the same time remember that you can have more than one instance of the same MDB running on one queue"

Would this work If we consider Synchronous Messaging???[/code][/quote]
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqmaniac wrote:
"At the same time remember that you can have more than one instance of the same MDB running on one queue"

Would this work If we consider Synchronous Messaging???


MQ Series is by essence ASYNCHRONOUS. So I have no idea what you are talking about with Synchronous messaging...
However the request response design pattern may make it seem quasi synchronous...

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teal
PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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a bit perplexed as to all the talk about creating multiple MDB's to listen to a particular queue.

why not use connection pooling which essentially allows you have concurrent processing of all messages with a single MDB implementation??

I am talking about WMQ ans WAS obviously..
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teal wrote:
a bit perplexed as to all the talk about creating multiple MDB's to listen to a particular queue.

why not use connection pooling which essentially allows you have concurrent processing of all messages with a single MDB implementation??


Because, perhaps, you have decided to inappropriately share a queue between different logical functions.
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