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| scho |
 Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:15 am Post subject: MQ message Editor |
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Hi,
Is there any Browser Base MQ message Editor there without using MQ Client ?
We are using channel exit to check IP address for security in z/OS, therefore, MQ Client base Editor give us more maintenance activities that we want to avoid.
I believe Browser base(JAVA/JMS) MQ editor would be a perfect soultion.
Please advice me.
Steve
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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How do you expect to connect to the queue manager from a remote machine without using the MQ Client?
Please think about what your question actually means a lot more.
How do you expect to talk to ANY type of resource or subsytem on a remote machine without using a network client API?
For example, you could do something lovely like run a j2ee container on the machine that hosts the queue manager you want to use, and deploy an EJB that would talk to that queue manager using the MQ SERVER api.
But then you would have to use IIOP or a j2EE client to talk to that EJB from another machine. So all you've done is changed what PROTOCOL is used to talk to MQ over the network.
And made a lot of headaches for yourself.
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| scho |
| Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| jefflowrey wrote: |
How do you expect to connect to the queue manager from a remote machine without using the MQ Client?
Please think about what your question actually means a lot more.
How do you expect to talk to ANY type of resource or subsytem on a remote machine without using a network client API?
For example, you could do something lovely like run a j2ee container on the machine that hosts the queue manager you want to use, and deploy an EJB that would talk to that queue manager using the MQ SERVER api.
But then you would have to use IIOP or a j2EE client to talk to that EJB from another machine. So all you've done is changed what PROTOCOL is used to talk to MQ over the network.
And made a lot of headaches for yourself. |
Hi. Thanks for thought.
I'm talking about Server solution where a single MQ client connection to host MQ. all MQ developers only connect to Server by Browser, then Server do the MQ task such as Monitoring, Get/Put test msg, etc.
Thanks, Steve
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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So you're talking about having, for example, a web application that runs on a machine that has an MQ Client, and has many people connect to that web application to do what they need, and the application uses the MQ client.
This is not the same as not having the MQ client installed, and is not the same as not using the MQ Client at all.
It's a simple matter of programming to write such an application. Or you could, for example, look at the other posts here and see if there is such a flexible tool for looking at q's.
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| fjb_saper |
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| scho wrote: |
Hi. Thanks for thought.
I'm talking about Server solution where a single MQ client connection to host MQ. all MQ developers only connect to Server by Browser, then Server do the MQ task such as Monitoring, Get/Put test msg, etc.
Thanks, Steve |
Are you talking about something like QPasa ? 
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| billybong |
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This is quite basic. Just write or buy a web based application that runs in binding mode. I have developed one for our company but I dont know if there is a commercial product except our.
For basic browsing and queue monitoring you should be able to ask about any Java developer to program one for you.
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| Carl Bloy |
| Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
QN-AppWatch is a commercial product that does exaclty what you're looking for....
If you have the money, i'ld definately recommend it.
Carl.
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| billybong wrote: |
| This is quite basic. Just write or buy a web based application that runs in binding mode. |
And then you have to put a web application server on every queue manager machine.
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| scho |
| Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| Carl Bloy wrote: |
Hi,
QN-AppWatch is a commercial product that does exaclty what you're looking for....
If you have the money, i'ld definately recommend it.
Carl. |
Great. Folks !
My Client has money. I'm looking for best fit for their application need.
I'll research further as this forum recommended and will post it here. More suggestion greatly appreciated.
Steve
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| RogerLacroix |
| Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
It seems to me that putting a Web server on every server where you have MQ installed, so that you can use bindings mode, is a lot of work. Plus you will have the management of those web servers too.
Of course, there is the option of using MQ Visual Edit but it is not a browser-based solution.
A mid-ground solution would be to install MQ Visual Edit with the JVM on a LAN drive. Hence, the user would install nothing on their local PC – except for the icon to MQ Visual Edit. MQ Visual Edit even allows you to share the ‘Queue Manager Access Profiles’ (queue manager connection information). One user could generate this file then stored on the LAN drive for everyone to use.
Note: MQ Visual Edit is licensed to the end-user so you would need to purchase enough licenses for all users that would be using MQ Visual Edit.
Yes, MQ Visual Edit is not a browser-based solution but all features, support and management of the solution should be considered.
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Roger Lacroix
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| scho |
| Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Roger. I'll contact you when I need more info.
Steve
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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And as money is not too tight you should investigate your client's needs for monitoring. Most monitoring packages (QPasa from MQSoftware is what we use) have the capabilities and features you are looking for.
This would go nice with your client as you can then bundle some of the needs together and decide whether you would rather go with one product only or multiple products...
Enjoy 
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| scho |
| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:46 am Post subject: QN-AppWatch |
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I tried AppWatch that is Browser based and Apache(Windows version) is included, no Web server is needed. It works great and also has own security filter to check before user reach to Qmgr. One client channel to Qmgr is all you need.
Also, I'm getting old Canlde(IBM) PQEdit for trial which was renamed to "Message Editor for z/OS". But it looks like a re-pacakaged old PQedit (same manual and same everything) except new version number PQedit 1.2.1 instead 1.2.0 we had for years.
As PQEdit installation manual indicated, it supports upto MQ V5.2.
Anyone have tried PQEdit(z/OS) with WMQ V6 (z/OS version) yet ?
IBM said it is supported one for future release, but no way to find out in our environment under WMQ V5.2(z/OS).
Please advice me.
Steve
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| rtsujimoto |
| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Steve,
Slight correction:
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| Also, I'm getting old Canlde(IBM) PQEdit for trial which was renamed to "Message Editor for z/OS". But it looks like a re-pacakaged old PQedit (same manual and same everything) except new version number PQedit 1.2.1 instead 1.2.0 we had for years. |
You got PQEdit 1.2.1, not Message Editor for z/OS. The Message Editor for z/OS (AFAIK) hasn't gone GA yet. |
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| scho |
| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Hi.
long time no talk.
Yes. you're right.
IBM said it will be ready by Q3 and support WMQ V6 also.
Steve. 
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