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| mrlazy |
 Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:11 am Post subject: Recreating MQSI 2.1 control center |
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Hi,
We have a control center machine which hosts MQ 5.3,MQSI 2.1,DB2 8.5 (but Broker located on UNIX machine). I have to create a replica of this machine on a brand new machine. Apart from importing MQ Object defintions & exporting/importing message flows and messasge sets, is there any thing else I should be doing? (i.e. ConfigMgr, Repository Mgr DB2 backup and restoring in new machine??). It would be of great help if you let me know of any document which guides me in doing this.
Kindly guide me.
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| vennela |
| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| I think it would be helpful if you let us know what other components you have to mimic (like QMGR, Databases etc) |
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| mrlazy |
| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, We do have QMgrs associated with ConfigMgr, databases associated with ConfigMgr.
I would more interested to know if I need to backup & restore the database from old machine to new machine to make the control center work exactly like in the old system? |
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| MikeC |
| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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You shouldn't have to backup and restore the database. Once you create the databases on the new machine, create the Config Mgr and import the message flows and message sets, the databases should be populated when you check everything in.
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| sirsi |
| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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mrlazy,
If you are creating another broker do as MikeC says.
If not, then install only MQ, control center in ur new machine and link to config mgr of old machine. |
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| mrlazy |
| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Sirisi,
I will not be installing any broker. It will be instead restored(AIX). All I need to do is create a Ctrl center on windows.
So if I got you right, I should not be worried about database backup. I should just imp/exp msg flows and msg sets.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. |
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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If the configmgr is not on this control center machine, then you don't need to do anything other than installing control center.
Otherwise, you should look in the WMQI 2.1 documentation. I remember one of the manuals has explicit backup/restore instructions for ConfigMgr and for Broker.
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| mrlazy |
| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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I saw in the Admin guide, but didn't notice anything about database backup.
Just came across it while reading the Migration concepts.
I will be installing Configuration Manager on the new machine itself (Ctrl Center). Only Broker will not be installed specifically.
Since I'll be installing ConfigMgr, I got the doubt whether to backup the database.Or since I'll be imp/exp msg flows/sets, no need of database backup?
Sorry for my confusing language... |
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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You do need to back up the configmgr database and restore it.
Otherwise, you will need to delete and recreate your brokers in order to register them with the new configmgr - as they will already be associated with the old configmgr and thus won't be able to register with the new one.
I'm fairly certain I remember the admin guide covering how to backup and restore configmgr.
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| mrlazy |
| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:19 am Post subject: |
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So I MUST take a backup and restore ConfigMgr, instead of creating a new ConfigMgr?
What I planned was to create a new configmgr, just import msg sets/flows and deploy in the restored broker on AIX. Now after reading your response,I started thinking about registering the restored brokers with newly created config mgr. I didn't think about it earlier!!
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| vennela |
| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| From what I understand from your posts, you shouldn't even be creating a configmgr. All you need to do is install the control center and point it to configmgr sitting on some other box. |
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| mrlazy |
| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:19 am Post subject: |
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I think you got it wrong 'vennela'.
I have ConfigMgr, it's related database & QMgrs and Control Center on one macihne (XP). Only the Broker and its database is located on AIX machine.
Now I have to build the XP machine from scratch. AIX will be restored. (n so brokers)
For the new XP to work properly in conjuction with restored brokers (AIX), is it OK if I create a config mgr, build & configure db2, import/export msf flows/sets?
Or else SHOULD i backup & restore the config mgr (coz after reading jeff's post, I too thought how will the brokers register with the new config mgr)? |
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| vennela |
| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:47 am Post subject: |
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In that case, there is no point in recreating the configmgr.
Following Jeff's suggestion is the way to go. |
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Vennela, vennela, vennela...
Brokers are irrevocably registered to a configmgr when you add them to the broker domain, or "topology" in the 2.1 nomenclature.
If mrlazy deletes his existing configmgr, and runs mqsicreateconfigmgr again, he will create a configmgr with a new UUID, that will not be known to any of the existing brokers. mrlazy will then have to run mqsideletebroker and mqsicreatebroker to reregister the brokers to the new configmgr. This would be a production outage situation.
So what mrlazy really needs to do is backup the configmgr db, and recreate the machine and the configmgr and then overlay the configmgr database backup onto the configmgr database. As far as I recall, that's the procedure.
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| vennela |
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