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csaunders
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:57 am    Post subject: problem with triggering Reply with quote

Acolyte

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I have a xmit q set for tiggering, but every morning the channel goes inactive and I have to manually restart the channel, here is my definition

DEF QL (MQS3) USAGE(xmitq) TRIGGER TRIGTYPE(FIRST) INITQ(SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ) TRIGDATA(USVI_APP1A.MQS3)

the trigdata is my sender channel...

At first I had a typo, then I fixed that, restarted the channel, and thought it would work, low and behold I come in this morning and its inactive and messages were sitting on the xmit q. Any ideas?
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sebastianhirt
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

If you don't have already, make sure a channel initiator is running.

cheers

Sebastian
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ have an Open Input Count?
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wschutz
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and are you sure the channel status is "Inactive" versus "Stopped"?
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Nigelg
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You do not need to put the channel name in TRIGDATA, the channel initiator will start a channel which uses the xmitq. That eliminates one possible place you can set it up wrong.
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csaunders
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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sebastianhirt wrote:
Hi,

If you don't have already, make sure a channel initiator is running.

cheers

Sebastian

how do i confirm this?
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wschutz
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Depends on the platform, but the easiest way is to:
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Does SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ have an Open Input Count?

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csaunders
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jefflowrey wrote:
Does SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ have an Open Input Count?
I see Defauult In put Open Option set to Exlcllusive
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csaunders
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jefflowrey wrote:
Does SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ have an Open Input Count?
display ql(SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ) all
3 : display ql(SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ) all
AMQ8409: Display Queue details.
DESCR(WebSphere MQ Channel Initiation Queue)
PROCESS( ) BOQNAME( )
INITQ( ) TRIGDATA( )
CLUSTER( ) CLUSNL( )
QUEUE(SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ) CRDATE(2005-06-2
CRTIME(13.44.54) ALTDATE(2005-07-27)
ALTTIME(09.48.07) GET(ENABLED)
PUT(ENABLED) DEFPRTY(0)
DEFPSIST(NO) MAXDEPTH(1000)
MAXMSGL(2000) BOTHRESH(0)
NOSHARE DEFSOPT(EXCL)
HARDENBO MSGDLVSQ(PRIORITY)
RETINTVL(999999999) USAGE(NORMAL)
NOTRIGGER TRIGTYPE(NONE)
TRIGDPTH(1) TRIGMPRI(0)
QDEPTHHI(80) QDEPTHLO(20)
QDPMAXEV(ENABLED) QDPHIEV(DISABLED)
QDPLOEV(DISABLED) QSVCINT(999999999)
QSVCIEV(NONE) DISTL(NO)
NPMCLASS(NORMAL) DEFTYPE(PREDEFINED)
TYPE(QLOCAL) SCOPE(QMGR)
DEFBIND(OPEN) IPPROCS(1)
OPPROCS(0) CURDEPTH(0)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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csaunders wrote:
I see Defauult In put Open Option set to Exlcllusive


No..

echo "dis ql(SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ) IPPROCS">runmqsc (QmgrName if not the default qm)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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IPPROCS(1)

Well... your initq is open, so its probably safe to assume its the channel initiator. Are there any error messages in the mq log (again, what platform are on using?) If unix /var/mqm/qmgrs/<qm>/errors/AMQERR01.LOG, if windows, then the application event log.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dis ql(SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ) IPPROCS
1 : dis ql(SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ) IPPROCS
AMQ8409: Display Queue details.
QUEUE(SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ) IPPROCS(1)
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csaunders
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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wschutz wrote:
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IPPROCS(1)

Well... your initq is open, so its probably safe to assume its the channel initiator. Are there any error messages in the mq log (again, what platform are on using?) If unix /var/mqm/qmgrs/<qm>/errors/AMQERR01.LOG, if windows, then the application event log.
How can you tell its safe to assume its the channel initiator?
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csaunders
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Nigelg wrote:
You do not need to put the channel name in TRIGDATA, the channel initiator will start a channel which uses the xmitq. That eliminates one possible place you can set it up wrong.
i have the exact same setup in other environemtns and the messages dont end up on the transmit q, nor does the channel go inactive... can someone give me background on what the channel initator is, and how I create one?
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sebastianhirt
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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csaunders wrote:
wschutz wrote:
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IPPROCS(1)

Well... your initq is open, so its probably safe to assume its the channel initiator. Are there any error messages in the mq log (again, what platform are on using?) If unix /var/mqm/qmgrs/<qm>/errors/AMQERR01.LOG, if windows, then the application event log.
How can you tell its safe to assume its the channel initiator?


Because there are not that many processes accessing the initq.

But if you want to be 100% sure, then type in on Unix/Linux

ps -ef|grep mqchi

on Windows
open the MQServices Snap in and click to your queue manager name and see there
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