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srikanthc60
PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:47 pm    Post subject: Stopping queue manager with out stopping broker Reply with quote

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What happens if I Stop queue manager with out stopping broker. Will this cause any damage to the broker. or the queue manager can't be stopped without stopping underlying broker?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is a trick in which you have a table that is covered with a table cloth and places are set. Then with a bit of skill you can whip the table cloth out and the settings remain.

If you are using the MQ Transport in your flows then stopping the Queue Manager without stopping the broker is like removing the Table in the above example. Do you really think that the table cloth and the settings would remain in place and that people could carry on and eat a meal?

Why don't you try it and see what happens?
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Vitor
PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: Stopping queue manager with out stopping broker Reply with quote

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srikanthc60 wrote:
What happens if I Stop queue manager with out stopping broker.


Why would you want to?

srikanthc60 wrote:
Will this cause any damage to the broker.


Not damage in the sense you'll need to reinstall the broker. It'll certainly stop working properly.

srikanthc60 wrote:
the queue manager can't be stopped without stopping underlying broker?


You're thinking of this wrong. The broker isn't underlying, it's sitting on top of the queue manager. If you pull the queue manager down, the broker will collapse.
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: Stopping queue manager with out stopping broker Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
If you pull the queue manager down, the broker will collapse.


It will stop working until the queue manager is available for reconnection.

Nothing otherwise will happen, until you delete the queue manager, or delete broker resources on the queue manager.

Then, you will have to recreate enough of those resources, to restart or delete the broker.

It won't damage the broker configuration if the queue manager is stopped. The broker will just stop working.
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new_to_wmb8
PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In your case Broker will stop working ..nothing happen with the broker but if you delete that QM then required resources for Broker will be deleted as well.
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zpat
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Try it, the broker will wait for the QM to come back up - but I wouldn't recommend it particularly. Don't try it in production.
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