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| ankurlodhi |
 Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:04 am Post subject: how to get started on AIX |
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i have been given access on a LAB server of AIX on which MQ is installed but
when i try to
su - mqm
user mqm does not exist.
i am not able to use it how to get started...
and ya this is my first time on an AIX Server .... help pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:08 am Post subject: |
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Why are you trying to su to 'mqm'?
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| ankurlodhi |
| Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| cause my id has not been added to MQM group by the administrator. |
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| ankurlodhi wrote: |
| cause my id has not been added to MQM group by the administrator. |
That is your solution plus 'mqm' is a group not a user.
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| smdavies99 wrote: |
| ankurlodhi wrote: |
| cause my id has not been added to MQM group by the administrator. |
That is your solution plus 'mqm' is a group not a user. |
On unix, mqm is both a user and a group.
Windows doesn't allow this, so the user is MUSR_MQADMIN. |
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
On unix, mqm is both a user and a group.
Windows doesn't allow this, so the user is MUSR_MQADMIN. |
Ok, but how did the OP get the 'user does not exist' message?
Is the 'mqm' user on AIX greated with 'nologon' attribute?
(I've never used AIX so I can't say here)
On Linux (RHEL) it looks like
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mqm:x:496:501::/var/mqm:/bin/bash
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:03 am Post subject: |
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The mq installation process doesn't create users/groups on Unix.
Presumably the systems admin forgot to do something.
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| gbaddeley |
| Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think you can install MQ on UNIX without the mqm userid and mqm group being present.
On AIX, the "id mqm" command will confirm if the userid exists, and show its primary group and secondary groups.
"su - mqm" or "sudo su - mqm" is a common enterprise technique to allow you to log on with your personal userid, and then switch over to mqm to do heavy duty MQ admin work. "sudo" is preferable as it can be controlled to be only usuable by certain users and not require the mqm password (hooray).
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| ankurlodhi |
| Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:47 am Post subject: |
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what i can on the box is that MQ is installed there and the complete file system of MQ is present there as well and group MQM is also there but user mqm does not exist
may be someone has deleted the user mqm . |
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| ankurlodhi |
| Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| gbaddeley wrote: |
I don't think you can install MQ on UNIX without the mqm userid and mqm group being present.
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on unix or any other platform we can install MQ with the user mqm and installation is always done with root, when installed MQ creates the Group and User mqm on it's own. |
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| SAFraser |
| Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| The user ID and group are not created by the MQ installation package. This is easily confirmed in any of the Unix Quick Beginnings manuals. |
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Although the manuals do say the id and group are created for you on Linux, and some people consider Linux to be a Unix.
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| SAFraser |
| Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Point taken. Thanks, Peter! |
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| zpat |
| Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:43 am Post subject: |
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You still might want to request the set up of the mqm group and user, even on Linux - to ensure the groupid number matches the other systems for example (which unix admins tend to prefer).
Certainly most large installations will probably want to manage the creation of users and groups, rather than have it done by the installation program.
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