ASG
IBM
Zystems
Cressida
Icon
Netflexity
 
  MQSeries.net
Search  Search       Tech Exchange      Education      Certifications      Library      Info Center      SupportPacs      LinkedIn  Search  Search                                                                   FAQ  FAQ   Usergroups  Usergroups
 
Register  ::  Log in Log in to check your private messages
 
RSS Feed - WebSphere MQ Support RSS Feed - Message Broker Support

MQSeries.net Forum Index » General IBM MQ Support » MQ Data Conversion Issue

Post new topic  Reply to topic
 MQ Data Conversion Issue « View previous topic :: View next topic » 
Author Message
vignesh1988
PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:01 pm    Post subject: MQ Data Conversion Issue Reply with quote

Acolyte

Joined: 13 Apr 2013
Posts: 62
Location: Chennai

I send Messages from AIX (CCSID = 819) to Mainframe (CCSID = 500).
The message in AIX looks like:
SKDJFHSKDJ23@#$#%%$!@!2[[[[[]]]]]

When i browse in Mainframe the same message look like:
SKDJFHSKDJ23@#$#%%$|@|2¢¢¢¢¢!!!!!

So Some Characters are not been converted properly like [ ] ! etc.. Is this a CCSID problem? I also tried in Different platforms but same issue when comes to Mainframe.

The Message was PUT using amqsput. When i try to unload the message to a dataset, Characters are same.
Please advise me what could be the problem.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
zpat
PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Council

Joined: 19 May 2001
Posts: 5866
Location: UK

Put does not convert data. Optionally Get will convert data.

Make the CCSID match the data in the message when putting. Ensure you use characters that are available in both codepages. Ensure the format is set to MQSTR

UTF-8 is probably a better choice than Ascii for sending the message.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
vignesh1988
PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

Joined: 13 Apr 2013
Posts: 62
Location: Chennai

yes, But CONVERT(YES) for the sender Channel... So it must convert i hope... The Message format is MQSTR.
Also can you explain the below phrase:

"Make the CCSID match the data in the message when putting. Ensure you use characters that are available in both codepages"

How to send UTF-8 format message? Please advise
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
zpat
PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Council

Joined: 19 May 2001
Posts: 5866
Location: UK

Using convert on channel is not best practice. However some sites do use it rather than fixing their getting applications.

How to create a UTF-8 message depends on the application language creating the message.

You need to analyse the message data in hex - work out what you are sending, and what you are getting. Then look at the codepage tables for conversion between the two character sets to see what is expected to happen.

If you view the message using support pac MO71 you can opt to format it in hex so you can see the exact data, however remember to select "convert" off in MO71 beforehand.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bruce2359
PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:02 am    Post subject: Re: MQ Data Conversion Issue Reply with quote

Poobah

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
Posts: 9470
Location: US: west coast, almost. Otherwise, enroute.

vignesh1988 wrote:
I send Messages from AIX (CCSID = 819) to Mainframe (CCSID = 500).
The message in AIX looks like:
SKDJFHSKDJ23@#$#%%$!@!2[[[[[]]]]]

When i browse in Mainframe the same message look like:
SKDJFHSKDJ23@#$#%%$|@|2¢¢¢¢¢!!!!!

I also tried in Different platforms but same issue when comes to Mainframe.

Please advise me what could be the problem.

This is expected behavior, as AIX uses ASCII character coding, while z/OS uses EBCDIC. When your ASCII data arrives on the z hardware, the z/OS utility (editor) you use to view the data doesn't understand (and convert) ASCII character coding.

WMQ has data conversion help for you. Read this: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27005729
_________________
I like deadlines. I like to wave as they pass by.
ב''ה
Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi, Lex Vivendi. As we Worship, So we Believe, So we Live.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
zpat
PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Council

Joined: 19 May 2001
Posts: 5866
Location: UK

Not exactly the case Bruce, since the alphabetic characters are readable on the mainframe.

Data has been converted but some of the special chars are not the same.

My instruction to the OP is to find our the underlying hex byte value of these characters before and after the conversion and see what they are.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bruce2359
PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poobah

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
Posts: 9470
Location: US: west coast, almost. Otherwise, enroute.

The OP can use the PDF editor, set HEX ON, to view the data in hex format to see the data in its hex format.
_________________
I like deadlines. I like to wave as they pass by.
ב''ה
Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi, Lex Vivendi. As we Worship, So we Believe, So we Live.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gbaddeley
PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
Posts: 2538
Location: Melbourne, Australia

bruce2359 wrote:
The OP can use the PDF editor, set HEX ON, to view the data in hex format to see the data in its hex format.


Good idea. If the msg has not been converted by a channel agent it should be on the mainframe queue in CCSID 819 and Format MQSTR and the msgdata should be in ASCII.

MQGET can convert it, but be careful with the target CCSID that it is going to use (initial CCSID in the MQMD passed into MQGET). If it is 500, and the consumer program is using 37, some character codes will not be converted as expected by the program.

Some terminal emulators may display characters differently, so check the CCSID of that too.
_________________
Glenn
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
rekarm01
PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grand Master

Joined: 25 Jun 2008
Posts: 1415

vignesh1988 wrote:
"Make the CCSID match the data in the message when putting. Ensure you use characters that are available in both codepages"

How to send UTF-8 format message? Please advise

The ISO ccsid (819) and EBCDIC ccsids (37, 500, 1047, etc.) use the same character set, so there's no data loss converting between them.

Switching to UTF-8 instead (1208) won't solve this issue. The problem is, as gbaddeley indicated, most likely that the consumer or display is expecting a different EBCDIC ccsid (such as 37 or 1047).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic  Reply to topic Page 1 of 1

MQSeries.net Forum Index » General IBM MQ Support » MQ Data Conversion Issue
Jump to:  



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Protected by Anti-Spam ACP
 
 


Theme by Dustin Baccetti
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Copyright © MQSeries.net. All rights reserved.