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| roshan.171188 |
 Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:38 pm Post subject: BACKOUTCOUNT greater than BOTHRESH |
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Hello all,
i am not sure what else to check but i have a message lying on a queue where application is unable to pick up the message because of a CCSID issue.
from the message,
Back out Count = more than 1k
BOTHRESH of the queue = 10
BOQUEUE is null for the queue.
Now in this case, the message should go to the default dead queue which is defined on the qmgr object, but thats not happning here in this case.
Can anyone tell me if this can be something because the Queue Manager conversion is not supported for this CCSID?? |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Why should the message go to the dead letter queue? Is this a message broker app?
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| roshan.171188 |
| Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| If no BOQUEUE is mentioned on the application queue properties, after the backout threshold is reached, should the messages not go to the default dead queue? |
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| exerk |
| Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:38 am Post subject: |
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| roshan.171188 wrote: |
| If no BOQUEUE is mentioned on the application queue properties, after the backout threshold is reached, should the messages not go to the default dead queue? |
Why should it? What makes you think it should? I suggest you read the Info Centre more closely.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| roshan.171188 wrote: |
| If no BOQUEUE is mentioned on the application queue properties, after the backout threshold is reached, should the messages not go to the default dead queue? |
Unless something like WAS or WAS is running your application, the message won't even go to the backout queue unless the application takes action.
But as others have pointed out, what leads you to believe in your set up a queue with no backout queue defined will start backing out to the dead letter queue? What do you think should be making this happen? Have you checked that the whatever you think is doing this is working?
And if you think the queue manager does this, it's your understanding that's not working.
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Backout count is simply a count of the number of times your application issued the MQBACK (or equivalent) API call for this message.
Backout threshold is simply a number that your application developers specify as the threshold (maximum number) for backouts for this queue.
Backout requeue queue name is simply a the name of the queue that your application should move the message to when backout threshold is reached.
It is an application responsibility to take action to backout a message, or to move it to the backout queue. The queue manager does NOT do this for your application.
This is well-documented in the WMQ Application Programming Reference manual, the WMQ Application Programming Guide manual, and the equivalent documentation on the InfoCenter.
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| rekarm01 |
| Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:46 am Post subject: Re: BACKOUTCOUNT greater than BOTHRESH |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
| This is well-documented in the WMQ Application Programming Reference manual, the WMQ Application Programming Guide manual, and the equivalent documentation on the InfoCenter. |
For example, regarding the BOQNAME and BOTHRESH, the APR states:
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| Apart from allowing its value to be queried, the queue manager takes no action based on the value of this attribute. |
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