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telus
PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:21 am    Post subject: Convert the CMF to HL7 v3.0 Reply with quote

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Hi

I need to convert the CMF(Common message format ie XML message) to HL7 v3.0 message using message broker.

1. Convert the CMF message to HL7 v3 :
For this i have searched in the sample Healthcare , and in this the HL7 message is in input message in he Generic HL7 input node .

2.And Also in the sample the Healthcare pack of V2 is demonstrated.

Questionsl

1. It is possible to conver the CMF message to HL7
a).If yes the what are the best message broker node need to be used.
b)It will give the good perfomance(As we are targeting large messageing flow)
c)As we are thinking of conversoion of CMF messge to HL7 V3.0 (is the heathcare pack is availble)
d)Any link or white papers for the same help me alot.

Please share your thoughts on the same.

Thanks
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, it does appear to be the job you have been hired to do, to answer all of these questions.

Best of luck!

As a simple hint, I do not believe you will find that CMF is an acronym that has any meaning outside of the organization you are currently working with.
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telus
PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CMF converted message is done by external applicatiion , and the input to the messge broker will be cmf message.

You can treat this is XML message.

I have done anysis on the same and there is no more information mentioned on the infocenter other than the information which I posted.

I am in the exploring phase not implementation that's why post the question on the forum.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I could quote you my consulting rates, but you couldn't afford them and I'm not free for new work for at least several months.

You're asking for a lot of free assistance, for tasks that appear to be the job that you personally are getting paid to accomplish.

In general, Message Broker can convert any kind of message to any other kind of message, provided that they can both be modelled in some manner.

In general, "the best" message broker node to use for any task is the one that is *best* by *your particular* standards and criteria for *your particular* situation.

In general, performance needs to be measured before you can make decisions about what performs best.

IN general, there are a LOT of available resources for self-learning on Message Broker and HL7 formats. Some of those cover the Healthcare connectivity pack.

Best of Luck and Happy Learning.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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30 seconds on google

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmbhelp/v7r0m0/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.etools.mft.samples.healthcare.doc%2Fdoc%2Fmessagedefinitions.htm

that should be a good start
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
Yes, it does appear to be the job you have been hired to do, to answer all of these questions.

Best of luck!


mqjeff wrote:

As a simple hint, I do not believe you will find that CMF is an acronym that has any meaning outside of the organization you are currently working with.




I thought CMF as Compild Message Flow at the beginning.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have alredy gone through the documentation and sample availble.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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telus wrote:
I have alredy gone through the documentation and sample availble.


Then you should be fine. If not, consulting rates apply.

Your question is "how do I use broker to ....". It's too broad to be answered in this kind of format, and if we did it would be "it depends".

There's no "best" answer for this. There's the "best for you" solution, which depends on a lot of site-specific factors we have no knowledge of.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have searched in the info center and does not found any information related to the healthcare pack which process the HL7 V3 messages.

And the message broker version i am using is 7

Does anyone have idea about this?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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telus wrote:
I have searched in the info center and does not found any information related to the healthcare pack which process the HL7 V3 messages.

Which info center? this one?
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telus
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yes, It is nowhere mentioned in the that IBM has healthcare pack for processing V3 message. This only explains about v2.x message.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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telus wrote:
yes, It is nowhere mentioned in the that IBM has healthcare pack for processing V3 message. This only explains about v2.x message.


Okay, now I understand this.

Presumably it simply hasn't been updated yet to support HL7 V3. The v8 Info Center mentions HL7 v2.5, so even that hasn't been updated.

I'd suggest you contact your IBM sales rep to discuss relevant product strategies.
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telus
PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have sent e-mail to IBM regarding the same.Waiting for there response.
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rekarm01
PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Convert the CMF to HL7 v3.0 Reply with quote

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telus wrote:
yes, It is nowhere mentioned in the that IBM has healthcare pack for processing V3 message. This only explains about v2.x message.

HL7 v2.x messages are MRM/TDS type messages. HL7 does not provide WMB-specific message sets for them, so IBM does, as part of its healthcare pack.

HL7 v3 messages are XML messages. HL7 provides schemas for them, so IBM doesn't need to. WMB can support HL7 v3 messages directly, without a separate healthcare pack.
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telus
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh Really , Thanks rekarm01.

So according to you, If we download the HL7 message schema from the website of hl7 and import this in WMB 7 then it will work.

There is any white papers from IBM/ or any information available on the internet which proof that ?

Thanks
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