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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:25 am    Post subject: Help needed with implementing Fax capabilities from MB Reply with quote

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Hi,
I am trying to implement a MB solution that needs to send out a fax on recieving a PDF message.
Any suggestions. I know that we may need to use some external java APIs to achieve it.

But if any one has implemented a solution, Inputs will be helpful

Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What facilties are available to you to send a fax? Knowing this will enable us to better advise.

For instance, do you have a fax server that accepts http / tcp connections? A service that will fax an email attachment? What?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Products like RightFax can handle Emails to FAX (and vice-versa) and actually also has a MQ adapter.

There are also hosted services that can do this, it really depends what is to be used, since you don't wire WMB to the telephone network!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We are trying to implement with Right fax only. At this point I am not sure we have the integration module of right fax which has MQ Adapter support.

Waiting on response from on that front. In the mean time I am trying to explore other available options

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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inder wrote:
We are trying to implement with Right fax only. At this point I am not sure we have the integration module of right fax which has MQ Adapter support.


From what I know of RightFax (which isn't much), in the absense of the adapter an email will be your best bet.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can also access the RightFax database directly from WMB as they provide the schema. We have a flow doing that.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do people use FAX machines anymore? I thought they went out of style before the turn of the century.

I guess some people still have landlines.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lancelotlinc wrote:
Do people use FAX machines anymore?

It's not the first time I've seen this requirement.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lancelotlinc wrote:
I thought they went out of style before the turn of the century.


You'd be amazed how many corporations are not stylish.

lancelotlinc wrote:
I guess some people still have landlines.


And the majority of them are corporations.

A lot of compainies have stuck with fax rather than get mixed up in the non-repudiation of emails (or WMQ messages).
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I guess some people want to do things manually. You fax a document someplace, someone has to file it, track it manually during its life, and shred it when its done. Yuck!

Some companies need to move into the 21st Century.

http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E13214_01/wli/docs70/b2bsecur/nonrep.htm

http://documentation.softwareag.com/webmethods/wmsuite8_ga/Tamino/xsx/xsxnonrp.htm

You know, I've had this paperweight on my desk all year that used to be called a phone. It has dust on it. I have actually picked up the receiver three times in 12 months (one of those three times was just to see if it still worked). We use AT&T Web Conferencing, email, and other means to communicate now. I see it as a waste of money, because it has to be inventoried, maintained, and accounted for much like that fax'd document.

We should Fed-Ex in some more trees.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lancelotlinc wrote:
I guess some people want to do things manually. You fax a document someplace, someone has to file it, track it manually during its life, and shred it when its done. Yuck!


Or keep the piece of paper with a picture of someone's signature on it in a file so when the someone's employer / auditor / Federal Government agent asks why such and such a thing was done they can pull it out like a rabbit from a hat without explaining how the digital signature on the email proves conclusively who sent it.

lancelotlinc wrote:
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E13214_01/wli/docs70/b2bsecur/nonrep.htm

http://documentation.softwareag.com/webmethods/wmsuite8_ga/Tamino/xsx/xsxnonrp.htm


Yes, I do know what this is and did mention it. A lot of companies either can't implement it, won't implement it, can't be bothered to understand it or fear it won't stand scrutiny in court.

I'm not saying it's a good system, or a bad system, I'm just saying a lot of businesses do it & it's not an uncommon requirement.

I'd be surprised (and as disapointed as you) if the fax being sent was an interdepartmental report.
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I would say most large companies receive them electronically from smaller business partners who haven't stopped using them. Sometimes they go directly into the documentation system as a image. They won't be processed on paper once received by RightFax.
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