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| shashivarungupta |
 Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: configuration manager database in unix/its flavors ? |
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Hi All,
Could some one please let me know where and how can I open the configuration manager database in unix/its flavors ?
Thanks in advance.
Varun
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Please rephrase your question so we know what you are asking.
But in current version of the product, there is no database for the Config Manager.
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| shashivarungupta |
| Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| PeterPotkay wrote: |
Please rephrase your question so we know what you are asking.
But in current version of the product, there is no database for the Config Manager. |
I know, there is a config. mgr database in windows.. its name is BERNARD. Which can be checked and modified (at the IBM Admin level.). The same way I asked for the Unix/its flavors., to check it.
(In windows database can be open in GUI mode.)
Appreciate your help.
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| shashivarungupta |
| Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| ...there is no database for the Config Manager. |
...generally its not been advised to do any kind of change/modification/addition/deletion in the data base., BERNARD.
Its internal to the Config. Mgr.
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| mqjeff |
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Regardless of how it is implemented, it is not a database, even if it's implemented using a database.
It's an internal product repository.
Do not play with it. |
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| aditya.aggarwal |
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There is no Database related to confir manager. most probably They have asked you for the Broker D/B
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| mqjeff wrote: |
It's an internal product repository.
Do not play with it. |
I completely agree, although my amateur psychology skills tell me that attempts to keep it hush-hush will only encourage some people to look for it and do something foolish ... |
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| Vitor |
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| shashivarungupta wrote: |
I know, there is a config. mgr database in windows.. its name is BERNARD. Which can be checked and modified (at the IBM Admin level.). (In windows database can be open in GUI mode.)
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Really? Which GUI does this? Is this a supported method?
I'd also wonder what exactly you'd want to check/modify in this database. And why. Could you give an example?
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| mqjeff |
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| Luke wrote: |
| mqjeff wrote: |
It's an internal product repository.
Do not play with it. |
I completely agree, although my amateur psychology skills tell me that attempts to keep it hush-hush will only encourage some people to look for it and do something foolish ... |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
| "Well, the sign said ' Do not Push This Button'! What was I supposed to do?" |
| Vitor wrote: |
| shashivarungupta wrote: |
I know, there is a config. mgr database in windows.. its name is BERNARD. Which can be checked and modified (at the IBM Admin level.). (In windows database can be open in GUI mode.)
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Really? Which GUI does this? Is this a supported method?
I'd also wonder what exactly you'd want to check/modify in this database. And why. Could you give an example? |
Vitor, I agree this does sound extremely dubious/dodgy ... but might it be a distorted reference to the Config Manager Proxy API Exerciser?
If so, I'd urge great caution when using some of the methods, if people don't understand what they're doing, they could make a real mess of their environment. |
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| Vitor |
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| Luke wrote: |
| Vitor, I agree this does sound extremely dubious/dodgy ... but might it be a distorted reference to the Config Manager Proxy API Exerciser? |
Good thought. Might well be, or some site specific tool that uses it.
| Luke wrote: |
| If so, I'd urge great caution when using some of the methods, if people don't understand what they're doing, they could make a real mess of their environment. |
| Vitor wrote: |
| I'd also wonder what exactly you'd want to check/modify in this database. And why. Could you give an example? |
If this is the CMP API, then there are a couple of situations where you'd use it. But I'd repeat my above question, especially if it's being used routinely, or for common tasks.
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| shashivarungupta |
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Sorry for being away for a while....
...Anyways..
In the link given, it shows the Repository (internal) for the Config. Mgr. where all the imp. data are stored when config. mgr talks with the Brokers. And I agree.
fyi, Its also there in v6.1, and to view that in Windows System there is a command : C:\Program Files\IBM\MQSI\6.1.0.3>mqsicmrv
When we do that.. it opens the GUI of the internal REPOSITORY of config mgr. from the location : C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\IBM\MQSI\components\ConfigMgr
Here you can find the FLAT FILE BASED SYSTEM as BERNARD and a log of Derby.
In Earlier version (v5) , config. mgr. was given a db as for the broker(s).
I think we cant call it as DB for Config. Mgr cause we can not issue DB QUERIES/COMMANDS on that REPOSITORY and its does not seem to be a RELATIONAL DB STRUCTURE. 
Its a representation of file based system in folder structure in windows.
| aditya.aggarwal wrote: |
| There is no Database related to confir manager. most probably They have asked you for the Broker D/B |
If they had... then I would have posted diff. question then this. I know the difference. 
| mqjeff wrote: |
It's an internal product repository.
Do not play with it. |
I agree.
POINT : But if you want to play with it.. then please take the backup of the REPOSITORY and then do what you want.
IBM says NO to play with it. I KNOW.
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| I completely agree, although my amateur psychology skills tell me that attempts to keep it hush-hush will only encourage some people to look for it and do something foolish ... |
hmm... yes, as IBM says...
And... I would like to drag you back to : how can I open the configuration manager repository in unix/its flavors ?
(I know about the Windows)
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| Vitor |
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| shashivarungupta wrote: |
Here you can find the FLAT FILE BASED SYSTEM as BERNARD and a log of Derby.
In Earlier version (v5) , config. mgr. was given a db as for the broker(s).
I think we cant call it as DB for Config. Mgr cause we can not issue DB QUERIES/COMMANDS on that REPOSITORY and its does not seem to be a RELATIONAL DB STRUCTURE.
Its a representation of file based system in folder structure in windows.
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Pedantically, all relational databases are flat files; it's the software which owns the files that gives them the relational abilities. The same is true of Bernard, which is used internally as a database. I'm sure there are tools that allow the manipulation of this particually database software. Certainly Bernard's father gave that impression when we were talking about it one day.
I remain unconvinced it's a good idea.
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| shashivarungupta |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| I'd also wonder what exactly you'd want to check/modify in this database. And why. Could you give an example? |
I would have given... but right now I don't have that scenario.
From one of the mouths I heard, when the Config. Mgr. is defined on the Windows server and the Broker(s) on the AIX servers and there are channels between them to communicate..through the FIREWALL/NETWORK complexities, sometimes the database (or correctly REPOSITORY) of config. mgr. gets in an ASYNC mode (non synchronization mode) with the Broker DataBase (or Broker Informations) due to Network Issues THEN we got to take care of the Config.Mgr. REPOSITORY in sync. (with or without the consultation of IBM...mostly and recommended as...with IBM ).
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