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dellv
PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:01 pm    Post subject: What is DR? Reply with quote

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can anybody explain DR instructions for the Server?(Abrivate DR)
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DR = Disaster Recovery. ie. What to do if critical application and infrastructure components fail. There should be a DRP = Disaster Recover Plan for your organisation.
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You may also come across the abbreviation BCP (business continuity plan) that seems to be the buzzword flavor of the month in all the CIO magazines so expect to see it in a meeting near you soon!
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Sam Uppu
PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:32 am    Post subject: Re: What is DR? Reply with quote

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dellv wrote:
can anybody explain DR instructions for the Server?(Abrivate DR)


In some shops it is called as Contingency plan. If something goes wrong with existing infrastructure, the traffic will be routed to contingency(DR) center or servers.

Thanks.
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Pavan Kumar PNV
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you can read more on how this is achieved in MQ by reading the HACMP manuals
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Pavan Kumar PNV wrote:
you can read more on how this is achieved in MQ by reading the HACMP manuals


If you happen to be on the platform that uses HACMP. If not, it's the manual for SecureGuard or one of the other...


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In fact, HACMP is not a Disaster Recovery solution at all.

It's a High Availability solution.

DR usually requires multiple physical locations, separated by a considerable distance. Trying to span that "space" with most HA solutions will lead to pain and lots of time in conference rooms with executive managers.
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A more broad definition of DR: The ability to restore normal (business) operation following an outage - to the extent that the organization is willing and able to do so.

Sounds political, yes? It is. I've worked at shops where the directive was "Just back up everything." Of course, you can't really back up everything unless you know where everything is. There is also a knee in the expense curve beyond which management may/may not be willing to go to guarantee no outages. There is an enormous range of possibilities between no DR at all, and no outages.

The above definition deliberately leaves out any/all detail (hardware, software, network, data, etc.) because these are determined by how much or little management comits to DR.
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mqjeff wrote:
In fact, HACMP is not a Disaster Recovery solution at all.

It's a High Availability solution.


Doh!


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bruce2359 wrote:
A more broad definition of DR: The ability to restore normal (business) operation following an outage - to the extent that the organization is willing and able to do so.

Sounds political, yes? It is. I've worked at shops where the directive was "Just back up everything." Of course, you can't really back up everything unless you know where everything is. There is also a knee in the expense curve beyond which management may/may not be willing to go to guarantee no outages. There is an enormous range of possibilities between no DR at all, and no outages.

The above definition deliberately leaves out any/all detail (hardware, software, network, data, etc.) because these are determined by how much or little management comits to DR.


The DR capability should also be tested on a regular basis (say once a year) to ensure that it actually works and the DRP is correct in every detail. Normally this would be done out of business hours, as the main facility is completely taken off line, and the DR site is brought up for testing. Its a given fact that some business data may be missing or duplicated at the DR site, so application restart and recovery is an interesting exercise.

These days, good HA solutions are beginning to make traditional DR obsolete.

Business Continuity (BC) encompasses both HA and DR.
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