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| giuly020277 |
 Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: Reports on how many processes starts |
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Hello,
i have mq on zos (v.6.0).
I have 2 queue :
- ibm.crif.telem
- ibm.crif.as400
This 2 queue are triggered.
The first let start a process ibm.crif.telem.dcod who starts a cics transaction (called dcod) on cics A.
The second have another process (ibm.crif.as400.dcod) who start the same cics transaction (dcod) on the same cics (A).
How can i know how many dcod belong to the first process and how many to the second process?
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| Mr Butcher |
| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:53 am Post subject: |
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i assume they use the same initiation queue? otherwise you could use the reset qstats on the different initqueues, at least this would show you how many trigger messages have been created
you must either create your own counter within the triggered program, or use different transactions (ponting to the same program) if possible to differ between the both ..... then the cics tx counters would help you.
if everything is shared and named equal, then you can't differ.
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| giuly020277 |
| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:15 am Post subject: |
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mR BUTCHER..
YES..queues have the same initation queue.
I have prooved reset qstats command. It seems that i need.
I can scheduled it once at day...so i can see how many MSGOUT have ibm.crif.telem and how many MSGOUT have ibm.crif.as400.
What do u think? |
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| Mr Butcher |
| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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you see the number of messages on the two different input queues, but this is not equal to the number of transactions triggered. do you trigger first? do you trigger every? is your transaction processing the messages in a loop till 2033 ?
all this effects the number of transactions started to process the messages... and you asked for the transactions, not for the number of messages.
my idea was - if every queue has a seperate initqueue, then the reset qstats on the initqueues will show the number of trigger messages generated, which should be equal to the number of trabnsactions started, no matter how many application messages are processed.
so what do you want to count? the number of prcesses, or the number of messages?
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| giuly020277 |
| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:20 am Post subject: |
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my queues are triggered EVERY.
i'd like to count the number of transactions.....so...i think i'm interested to know how many processes starts... (because of EVERY trigger it is equal to number of messages...is true?) |
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| Mr Butcher |
| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:59 am Post subject: |
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every triggering with cics is a bit dangerous, because if you get hit by many messages in a short time you get lots of transactions in cics. one mechanism to prevent cics going SOS is to limit the number of transaction by uising transaction classes.
so # of trigger messages created may not be equal to # of transactions started.
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Additionally, if you are using Every, make sure your triggered apps loop on the queue until they get a 2033 No More Messages return code. This should be done for all trigger types, but for Every its critical. Otherwise you WILL find yourself sooner or later with a rolling backlog of messages on the input queue, wondering why MQ triggering is "broken".
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| oz1ccg |
| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| giuly020277 |
| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: |
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thank u oz1ccg,
i will take a look 
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