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| EricCox |
 Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:40 am Post subject: Tracing Acknowledgement/Return Status of PUT to Queue |
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Our Message Broker v6.0 Installation is being accused of losing messages as they go to the Mainframe Host.
Is there any way to get a status on a PUT to a Queue?
I'd like to get a return status on the PUT to the Queue by the OutputNode and save it in a database or log it to a file.
This way I can prove that the message flow executed and actually PUT the message to the intended OutputNode's queue.
Does anyone know if this is even possible? |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:41 am Post subject: |
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V6.0 is end of life.
On V6 broker, you can use MQ facilities with third party tooling to log/replay messages.
MQ does not loose messages.
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| EricCox |
| Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:47 am Post subject: Tell me |
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Tell that to the largest bank in the world.
I know that Message Broker doesn't lose messages.
But in an organization that is the largest bank in the world and refuses to upgrade their MQ and MB infrastructure it is hard to explain and prove that MB doesn't 'lose' messages.
I had some choice thoughts but thought better and deleted them. |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:53 am Post subject: |
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The MQOutput node puts information into LocalEnvironment about the WrittenDestination.
I believe this includes an MQRC. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:57 am Post subject: Re: Tell me |
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| EricCox wrote: |
| Tell that to the largest bank in the world. |
Tell them that WMBv6.0 is unsupported so if anything's going wrong that's the business risk of not taking the time and money to upgrade paying off. Someone decided that running on that platform was an acceptable risk, now they have to accept it.
Once they've been fired their replacement will allow you to upgrade.
"Largest" can be defined in a number of different ways. Having worked for a couple of organizations that can be so defined, my experience is that the refusal to upgrade "because we don't need to, everything's running fine & we can use the time we'd 'waste' upgrading to develop something that makes profit" evaporates when something bad happens.
Along with the relevant manager's prospects 
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| EricCox |
| Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:05 am Post subject: Same approach to everything |
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You can imagine if that is their approach to technology imagine how they treat their employees.
Disillusioned, disgruntled, angry, impatient and eyes wide open are mild descriptions of my feelings.
Why with so much to offer do they offer so little in so many different ways?
Cutting grass for a living is looking like a rewarding experience given my observations here.
I think I've done all I can for them. They'll have to help themselves shortly. |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:07 am Post subject: |
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You can also attach a Trace node to the Out terminal of the MQOuput node and write a CURRENT_TIMESTAMP in the SysLog.
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:18 am Post subject: Re: Tracing Acknowledgement/Return Status of PUT to Queue |
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| EricCox wrote: |
Our Message Broker v6.0 Installation is being accused of losing messages as they go to the Mainframe Host.
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Have you eliminated the usual 'lost message' suspects, like message expiry, non-persistent messages, and destination and DLQ full?
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| marko.pitkanen |
| Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:49 am Post subject: |
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And are there any transactions rolled back and uncommitted messages too?
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