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| Gaya3 |
 Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:30 am Post subject: creating 7000 Queues at one Shot |
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Hi All
Are there any support pacs or any tools which helps me to create 7000+ queues at one shot. 
If so please let me know. 
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| zpat |
| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| Write some simple program to generate the DEFINE commands and execute this command file with RUNMQSC. |
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Well... MS0S can help, at least in terms of letting you create an MQSC script with 7000 "Define queue" commands.
But you probably want a script, instead, that will create the file for you.
I hope you have a naming standard!
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| Gaya3 |
| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:11 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, let me see MS0S support pac 
yes, there are naming standards in place.
Yes, i thought of doing it using shell scripts,
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| Vitor |
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| zpat wrote: |
| Write some simple program to generate the DEFINE commands and execute this command file with RUNMQSC. |
Don't forget you'll need the same or similar technology to administer the queues (change queue depth, set triggering, etc) and to produce setmqauth commands.
7000+ queues? Now that's what I call an MQ estate! I wish you joy with it 
(Out of morbid curiosity, why that number? All on 1 queue manager?)
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| Gaya3 |
| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:22 am Post subject: |
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I know 7000 queues that too under one queue manager
it will be cut short to 2000 to 3000 in one queue manager. (  with client )
*Convincing some one is the best part in life...... 
But coming up with a generic script is the teadious task now for me.
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| Vitor |
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| Gaya3 wrote: |
| I know 7000 queues that too under one queue manager |
It's a big and impressive number, but not beyond the bounds of reason. Administration will be the problem.
| Gaya3 wrote: |
| it will be cut short to 2000 to 3000 in one queue manager. ( with client ) |
Deploy the trout.....
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| But coming up with a generic script is the teadious task now for me. |
Time to brush off those programming / scripting skills. 
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| Gaya3 |
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I have to 
| Vitor wrote: |
Time to brush off those programming / scripting skills. |
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| Gaya3 |
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 you jeff for MS0S tool, 
    
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| jeevan |
| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: Re: creating 7000 Queues at one Shot |
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| Gaya3 wrote: |
Hi All
Are there any support pacs or any tools which helps me to create 7000+ queues at one shot.
If so please let me know.
Regards
Gayathri |
To answer, you need to tell us
Do you have queue maning standard or you can name a queue as Q1...Q7000 ( I hope you have queue namaing standard in place)
Do all of them have same attribute or differ?
What portion do you like to automate ? creating a defintion ( define queue local( ) ) or implementation or both?
what os ( for scripting purpose) you have to create these queue ? in windows or unix? or both?
First of all, you have to craete a file with all these queue names. Once you have a file with all the queue name, grou them based on
os
simiarl attributes
hostname
queue manager name
your file looks like :
Queues
Windows
Group A
Hostname
Queue Name
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Group B
Hostname
Queue name
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Unix
Group A
Hostname
Queue Name
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Group B
Hostname
Queue name
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Nothing will help you to do this. you have to do this yourself.
Once you have this file, you can create a script which create a defitnition, puts in the hierarchical directories and runs based on the os/hostname. You still need to pass the queue manager name, but if your server dns is aliased as the queue manager name, ( if the server contains only one queue namager) you can use the alias in hostname. Otherwise you also have to provide queue manager name under the hostname
With remote execution, you can execute all the script staying in one server ( I am not sure wether you can do remote execution to windows staying in unix box, but you can do vice versa - execute remotely staying in windows box(I think there exists some ssh client in windows by which you can execute the script in remote unix server)
If you are creating all the queues in one queue manager, it is much simpler. You just have a file with queue names, and have a simple script to create definition all in one file. run that file against runmqsc for the queue manager.
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| Gaya3 |
| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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impressed, you made me to think again in to some more directions.
thanks let me look in to it
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| gbaddeley |
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Also consider capacity and sizing issues. Is the file system big enough to hold the maximum amount of data that needs to be queued at any one time?
# queues X maxdepth X maxmsgln = really big number !
If naming includes a queue number, use leading zeroes and allow for growth, ie. MY.Q00001, MY.Q00002 rather than MY.Q1, MY.Q2.
I also question a design which requires so many queues. It could be very inefficient. Can you share any details? |
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| gbaddeley wrote: |
Also consider capacity and sizing issues. Is the file system big enough to hold the maximum amount of data that needs to be queued at any one time?
# queues X maxdepth X maxmsgln = really big number ! |
Not to mention log, if persistent messages are in use...
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