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prince_mq
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:07 am    Post subject: SYSTEM.TEMPQMGR on partial Repos qmgrs Reply with quote

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Hi,

I am on WMQ 6.0.2.0, Solaris box.

I have 5 partial repository queue managers connected to 2 repository queue managers(REPOS1,REPOS2).

They are working fine for the past 2 months. We haven't used this box for a week and when we started working on this box again, we found that all partial repositories are showing SYSTEM.TEMPQMGR when i do a display clusqmgr(*).

DIS CLUSQMGR(*)
4 : DIS CLUSQMGR(*)
AMQ8441: Display Cluster Queue Manager details.
CLUSQMGR(PARTIALREPOS) CHANNEL(CHL.PARTIALREPOS)
CLUSTER(CLUSTER1)
AMQ8441: Display Cluster Queue Manager details.
CLUSQMGR(SYSTEM.TEMPQMGR.HOSTNAME_OF_REPOS1(1953))
CHANNEL(CHL.FULLREPOS) CLUSTER(CLUSTER1)

There are no issues with setup Since, the setup was working fine till the last 2 months.
I guess there is some problem with the REPOS1 queue manager. But not sure, how to debug and remove this SYSTEM.TEMPQMGR issue.

Also, I had stopped and restarted the REPOS1 queue manager but to no use.

I am confused as to how to go about solving this issue.

Please let me know if you have any ideas.

TIA,
Prince
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AkankshA
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are all the cluster sender and receiver channels b/w full n partial repos QM up and running???
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AMQ8441: Display Cluster Queue Manager details.
CLUSQMGR(SYSTEM.TEMPQMGR.HOSTNAME_OF_REPOS1(1953))
CHANNEL(CHL.FULLREPOS) CLUSTER(CLUSTER1)

Typically you get those when the cluster sender has made connection to the FR but the FR has not yet been able to send to response to the cluster receiver.

So verify the cluster receiver definition including the cluster, conname and mcauser fields. Remember the conname field MUST point to the PR you are connected to and looking at.

As well try to start the channel manually on the FR and check the FR and PR's logs. Some shops have "none" as a mcauser in the system.cluster.receiver default chl so that joining a cluster is a conscious effort.

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prince_mq
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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akanksha,

On partial repos qmgrs, clussdr is starting automatically but, clusrcvr is not starting automatically. I had to start this manually from full repos qmgrs.

Finally, both cluster sender and cluster receiver are running. but still SYSTEM.TEMPQMGR doesn't go away.

This SYSTEM.TEMPQMGR issue is seen on all the partial repos qmgrs.

I though there is some problem with repository queue managers.
Hence, I added one more PR to this cluster to check the same. Now, I am getting this error in the error logs.

1/29/2008 17:50:01 - Process(1160.1) User(MUSR_MQADMIN) Program(amqrrmfa.exe)
AMQ9419: No cluster-receiver channels for cluster 'CLUSTER1'

EXPLANATION:
The repository manager has received information about a cluster for which no
cluster-receiver channels are known.
ACTION:
Define cluster-receiver channels for the cluster on the local queue manager.



i dont see any issue with the cluster receiver definition.

Can any one help me in resolving this issue pls
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You forgot to set CLUSTER() attribute on your channels correctly.

You need to re-read the cluster manual instructions, and compare them to what you've done. You may need to play with a scratch cluster a bit to understand better how the pieces fit together.

Starting a clusrcvr is not necessarily going to make a difference.
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prince_mq
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jeff,

I have already added CLUSTER(CLUSTER1) attribute to both cluster sender and receiver.

The setup of cluster is working fine without any issues earlier. This issue of SYSTEM.TEMPQMGR appeared suddenly.

I am wondering why the above error "no cluster receivers defined" is coming.

pls advise.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The error says that you didn't set the CLUSTER attribute correctly.

Or that someone else is trying to join your cluster who isn't supposed to.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Please read the MQ Clusters Manual. The whole thing. There's good stuff in there!

For example, the reason for SYSTEM.TEMPQMGR*
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv6/v6r0/topic/com.ibm.mq.csqzah.doc/qc13120_.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And remember that channel changes don't take effect in the cluster until you have stopped and restarted the channel. Even then it takes some time to propagate to the whole cluster...
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