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Which form of Deploys do you use in production
Complete deploys everytime (ALL FLOWS/Message SETS
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Complete and Delta Deploys
30%
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Only Delta Deploys
38%
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Or other
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mrlinux
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:02 am    Post subject: Deploy POLL Reply with quote

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I am curious to how people in different companies deploy to there productions systems

Such as when an application with many flows goes from v1.0 to v1.1 etc

Do you do complete deploys or delta deploys ???? or a combination ???
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So what would "Or other" be?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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wschutz wrote:
So what would "Or other" be?

hand edit the broker db?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I left other in case they have some unknown way of doing it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mrlinux wrote:
I left other in case they have some unknown way of doing it.
Apparently, someone already does....
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One thing to keep in mind, though, is that the unit of deployment is the BAR file. The only reason to redeploy topology is if the topology has changed.

You can't deploy flows or sets outside of a BAR file, and you can't redeploy everything on a broker or an EG without building a BAR file that has everything on each individual EG, and deploying to each EG individually.

So "complete" and "delta" are mostly obsolete these days - except for Topology.
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wschutz wrote:
mrlinux wrote:
I left other in case they have some unknown way of doing it.
Apparently, someone already does....


It's certainly not recommended to hand edit the broker db. In fact, it would be an extremely complicated RPITA to do and is generally a bad idea. But it's possible.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And I wish he would post his way, so the rest of us would know.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can't deploy flows or sets outside of a BAR file

What about drag and drop kind of deployment
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You can't deploy flows or sets outside of a BAR file

What about drag and drop kind of deployment


And what is it you are dragging and dropping?
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And what is it you are dragging and dropping?

Message flows
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If you are talking from inside the Broker Tool Kit Dragging the bar file to the execution group(This is a delta deploy)
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Jeff Lowery ou can't deploy flows or sets outside of a BAR file, and you can't redeploy everything on a broker or an EG without building a BAR file that has everything on each individual EG, and deploying to each EG individually.

So "complete" and "delta" are mostly obsolete these days - except for Topology.

Well you can still do delta's and complete it depends on what your bar file contains.
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vennela wrote:
jefflowrey wrote:
And what is it you are dragging and dropping?

Message flows


Which creates a bar file in the background.
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You deploy to production by dragging the flows to the execution group ???
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