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veeruk
PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: MQ Broker System queue full..possible reasons? Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Hi guys,
One of our production boxes has MQ Broker configured on it. Recently the SYSTEM.BROKER.DEFAULT.STREAM queue reached it's maximum depth (10000 messages). The surprising thing is problem is recurring every thursday around 3PM from the last 2 weeks.
Please suggest the probable reasons why is this happening.Also let me know of any solutions with which I can get rid of this problem.
Thank you,
Veeru.
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd guess you have a subscriber that isn't picking up messages - or you have an application that is publishing more messages than your subscribers can handle.

And whenever there is an event that is recurring on a timed basis, then it is an application somewhere - and not MQ - that is at fault.
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veeruk
PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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But for this not to happen in the future, atleast we should be ready to handle the situation. So can I suggest the following options to my team?
a) Increase the maximum queue depth from the current 10000 messages to 50000 so as to handle the input messages, which shouldn't cause any interruption to the production box.
b) Find out the scheduled job which is putting the messages at that specific time and reschedule the job so that the broker and queue can handle the input messages.
c) Last option is to create another broker (child broker) under the existing broker(parent broker) so as to balance the work load.
Kindly let me know if I'm wrong at some point.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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First you should make sure that the volume is correct, and see if you can tune the applications some so that the queue doesn't build up so high.

For instance, if for some reason the app builders have decided to create a durable subscriber and have the subscriber triggered - then maybe you should start the subscriber on a scheduled basis instead - to eliminate startup time delays after the publisher starts.

Or you can see about adding instances or threads to the subscriber so it can fetch and process messages faster.

Then look at increasing the maxdepth and adding another broker. But adding another broker will only help if the subscriber app can't start more than one instance or thread on the same queue - but that's not likely since it's using the Default stream. If it were opening the default stream queue for exclusive access - then every other subscriber using the default stream would throw errors.
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