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mq_abcd
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:46 am    Post subject: Message sent time ? Reply with quote

Acolyte

Joined: 13 Jun 2004
Posts: 69

Hello All,

I am in a situation where the Message has been delayed by 5 mins.
i.e. the diff in timestamps at the recieving end is 5 Mins later than the message put time at my end. The traffic flow is normal.

Is there a way for me to tell at what time the message left the queue manager. I can get the message put time from the active LOGs but not the time the message was sent.

What might be the possible reasons for this delay.

Any help is appreciated
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scottm
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apprentice

Joined: 13 May 2004
Posts: 44
Location: SE Tennessee

Are the timestamps created on the same machine or on different machines? Are you really seeing a 5 minute delay, or is it only because of the timestamp?

Is it possible that the clock on multiples machines are not in sync? And I'm not referring to timezones, but actually GMT. Are they set to the same time?
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mq_abcd
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

Joined: 13 Jun 2004
Posts: 69

They Machines are completey in sync. Both in EST.
There is a delay of 5 mins.. its not any mismatching/miscalculations of. timestamps.
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hopsala
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Message sent time ? Reply with quote

Guardian

Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Posts: 960

mq_abcd wrote:
Is there a way for me to tell at what time the message left the queue manager. I can get the message put time from the active LOGs but not the time the message was sent.

I'm not sure what you mean by "sent" but I assume you mean "gotten by sender channel and put by receiver channel on the remote end to target queue" - If this is so, then you can simply see the MQGET the sender channel issued on your end in the active log.
Another option would be to use COA reports, but this will only tell you if the receiving application is the culprit, without ability to deduce how channels at play behaved.
A third option would be to use traces.

mq_abcd wrote:
What might be the possible reasons for this delay.

My guess is that you are not sending enough messages to fill your BATCHSZ and thus wait the time it takes for BATCHINT to finish - that apparently being 5 minutes. Check out these parameters in the manuals (or search here) and in your settings to see if my guess hit the mark.

Keep us posted.
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kevinf2349
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grand Master

Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Posts: 1311
Location: USA

It might help if you posted the platforms involved, versions of MQ and the channel definitions from each end.

My guess would be a configuration problem.

You may get some suggestions from.....

http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=20646&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=batchint&start=15

or

http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=21515&highlight=batchint

Do a search with BATCHINT....it has lots of good information provided therein.
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mq_abcd
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

Joined: 13 Jun 2004
Posts: 69

Sorry for not providing the config info earlier

Both the sending and recieving qmgr are on.
WMQ 5.3.0.5
Solaris 8

Quote:

CHANNEL(MOS.T0.TOR) CHLTYPE(SDR)
TRPTYPE(TCP) DESCR( )
XMITQ(XMITQ_MOS2TOR) MCANAME( )
MODENAME( ) TPNAME( )
BATCHSZ(50) DISCINT(6000)
SHORTRTY(10) SHORTTMR(60)
LONGRTY(999999999) LONGTMR(1200)
SCYEXIT( ) SEQWRAP(999999999)
MAXMSGL(41943040) CONVERT(NO)
SCYDATA( ) USERID( )
PASSWORD( ) MCATYPE(PROCESS)
CONNAME(xxxx.xxxxxx.com(1414))
HBINT(300) BATCHINT(0)
NPMSPEED(FAST) SSLCIPH()
BATCHHB(0) LOCLADDR()
KAINT(AUTO) MCAUSER( )
ALTDATE(2005-03-12) ALTTIME(21.25.53)
SSLPEER()
MSGEXIT( )
SENDEXIT( )
RCVEXIT( )
MSGDATA( )
SENDDATA( )
RCVDATA( )
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hopsala
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guardian

Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Posts: 960

Ok, so now we know it's not about batches, since you have BATCHSZ(0), but what about all the other things we suggested? You did not refer to them.
It's a long shot, but how about this - MQ Channel slows down every 10 minutes, or some similar network problem - check with your net guys that nothing had recently been changed.

(Why do I get the feeling you're not even trying to solve this yourself? in case you're waiting for a magic solution from us, i'm afraid you won't get it; not because we don't want to, but because we can't - you must make an effort)
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RogerLacroix
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also, is the application 'putting' the message under syncpoint and then going off and doing something else? Or sleeping?

If it is a Java / JMS application then check if it is using 'batch commit' with a 5 minute interval. (don't use it - bad idea).

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JT
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Padawan

Joined: 27 Mar 2003
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Location: Hartford, CT.

hopsala wrote:
Ok, so now we know it's not about batches, since you have BATCHSZ(0),

mq_abcd wrote:
CHANNEL(MOS.T0.TOR) CHLTYPE(SDR)
TRPTYPE(TCP) DESCR( )
XMITQ(XMITQ_MOS2TOR) MCANAME( )
MODENAME( ) TPNAME( )
BATCHSZ(50) DISCINT(6000)
SHORTRTY(10) SHORTTMR(60)
LONGRTY(999999999) LONGTMR(1200)
SCYEXIT( ) SEQWRAP(999999999)
MAXMSGL(41943040) CONVERT(NO)
SCYDATA( ) USERID( )
PASSWORD( ) MCATYPE(PROCESS)
CONNAME(xxxx.xxxxxx.com(1414))
HBINT(300) BATCHINT(0)
NPMSPEED(FAST) SSLCIPH()
BATCHHB(0) LOCLADDR()
KAINT(AUTO) MCAUSER( )
ALTDATE(2005-03-12) ALTTIME(21.25.53)
SSLPEER()
MSGEXIT( )
SENDEXIT( )
RCVEXIT( )
MSGDATA( )
SENDDATA( )
RCVDATA( )
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hopsala
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guardian

Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Posts: 960

JT wrote:
hopsala wrote:
Ok, so now we know it's not about batches, since you have BATCHSZ(0),

Sorry, typo - I meant BATCHINT(0)... Thanks JT.
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