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ashritha
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:13 am    Post subject: Help in understanding Pub/sub Concepts Reply with quote

Voyager

Joined: 25 Jul 2005
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Hello,

I am trying to understand the pub/sub concepts in MB.

I have a flow which pulishes a message and another flow for subscribing the published messages.

When the message is published, where does it reside?
The documentation says the publication node publishes the message to the broker and the broker routes it to the subscriber, but where does the message actually stay in the broker. does it physically reside on any of the broker queues???

The subscriber flow has an input node to which i will have to send a subscriber request.
Now, to which queue should the subscriber request go and how does the request message look like?
Also, do i have to send a request for every message published on the same topic?

I was expecting that if there is a subscriber for a topic he should be receiving the published messages automatically without sending the requests everytime. But how do I achieve this?

Thanks.
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vennela
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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Location: Hyderabad, India

No doube posts please......

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When the message is published, where does it reside?

Why do you want to know?

It resides somewhere in one of those broker queues.

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Now, to which queue should the subscriber request go and how does the request message look like?

http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11266&highlight=pub+sub+example

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I was expecting that if there is a subscriber for a topic he should be receiving the published messages automatically without sending the requests everytime. But how do I achieve this?

I think it depends on what kind of subscription message you put. I think you may want to explore the subscription options.

Use RFHUTIL support pac initially to put a subscription message.
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ashritha
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voyager

Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 85

Vennela,

This question

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When the message is published, where does it reside?


was from my client. Sorry to say but I cannot give the following answer to my Client

Quote:
Why do you want to know?

It resides somewhere in one of those broker queues.


Thanks for the link, but it kinda did not fully answer my question.

Quote:
I think it depends on what kind of subscription message you put. I think you may want to explore the subscription options


I am not aware of different kinds of subscription requests and the content of them. This was one of my questions in the initial post.

I created Topics from the toolkit in the Domains view of the Administrative perspective, I can also see the Subscriptions. Do i have to do anything there???

Any help?
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh, Look! Documentation.

Who knew?
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ashritha
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voyager

Joined: 25 Jul 2005
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Got the answer....

All the published messages go to SYSTEM.BROKER.DEFAULT.STREAM queue...

and all the subscription requests go to SYSTEM.BROKER.CONTROL.QUEUE.

Now, can anyone help me in building up the subscription message. Is it just an XML message with an element in it that needs to be verified in the esql to subscribe.
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's this? More Documentation?
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vennela
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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To be honest with you, I developed a pub sub message flow by using mqseries.net and especially the link below
http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11266&highlight=pub+sub+example

I did this just 2 days back.

Again:
For subscription message: use RFHUTIL

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/integration/support/supportpacs/

Supportpac IH03.

If you want to do it fast use the utilities. If you have time and want to know the details read the doc
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ashritha
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voyager

Joined: 25 Jul 2005
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Thanks vennela,

I developed the flows. But now, I am little confused with the message that I have to send to the input node of the subscription flow and may be next i will have to find a way to get all the published messages on a topic to the subscriber queue without sending the subscription requests everytime.

I need to read the documentation and browse the forums thoroughly.

Thanks for the help.
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