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basva
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:59 am    Post subject: SQL Driver for WMQI broker in AIX Reply with quote

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Hi

Does anyone know whether there is a ODBC driver for SQL database for MQSI broker running in AIX environment?

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kirani
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I dont think its currently available.
DataDirect was planning on building one ...
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maxis
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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does that mean .... broker running aix cannt query SQL server ?
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes. You can't talk to a Microsoft specific database from a non-Microsoft product.

Surprise!
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SixBlade
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This was pretty chocking for me, but MS has created JDBC drivers for SQL Server, possible to run on non-windows platforms! See this url:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9f1874b6-f8e1-4bd6-947c-0fc5bf05bf71&displaylang=en

I tested this from a small Java app on an AIX machine, simple insert and select, works fine. So this could be used in a custom Java node for example.
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psn
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What you need on the Broker is an ODBC Driver , not an JDBC Driver !

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EddieA
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe it's time to look at the "new" External Java Methods introduced by FixPac 4. As long as this doesn't cause a problem:
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Only JDBC type 4 database connections are permitted.

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SixBlade
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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psn,

I know the broker needs ODBC data sources for the Compute and database nodes. It seemed to me like DataDirect had drivers for MSSQL and AIX. For the JDBC case: you can write a custom Java plugin node and use JDBC there, works fine(just did that). _If_ you find this cheaper/easier/better than byuing the 3rd party driver and using Compute/Database nodes.
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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SixBlade wrote:
you can write a custom Java plugin node and use JDBC there, works fine(just did that).


I thought it was documented best practice to only use the WBIMB API database functions, as use of JDBC might interfere with the normal transaction handling of the broker?
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SixBlade
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jefflowrey,

an very important aspect.

Regarding transactions, the JDBC Java node is not 1 with the message flow, so especially if running a transaction updating several databases this approach is not the best one. This is not often the case in "my" current environment.

Btw, I found the following information in the WBIMB help, "Coordinated message flows":
"You must use DB2, Oracle, or Sybase databases if you want globally-coordinated message flows. "

Unfortunately, I have not looked into these global transactions from the broker much yet (uses XA, in Oracle that requires Java enabled, it's not here....), but I guess you're on own anyway using MSSQL, currently anyway?

Either way, this is an important aspect,....haven't looked into if you can listen for "global commit" in a plugin node....(?)..
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