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jonny
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:50 am    Post subject: Backup and Recovery Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Hi,

I have looked at some of the backup and recovery threads here, but I am still confused, could you please advice me as what should be backed up and when. Why I mean by when, is lets say I am goind to deploy a new changes to a flow, would then take a backup before you deploy the changes, and to which components?

WBIMB, CSD04, WMQ 5.3 CSD08, Sybase on Solars for the broker

Thanks in advance
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you are using version 5, then you should backup your broker and broker database merely to provide failure recovery.

You should put all of your message flows and sets under version control, and redeploy from version control for purposes of point-in-time recovery.

You should backup your version control repository for purposes of crash recovery and point-in-time recovery.

This is my opinion.
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PGoodhart
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ditto.
You need your queue manager objects (queues channels etc) as well. (Version control on these would be best.)

Take a baseline file system backup with everything stopped.
Then backup you dbs at least weekly.
Backup your queue manager as per IBM every day. This requires a shutdown.
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kirani
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you are interested in WMQ object defn backup then you can use one of the supportpac which will backup your object defn.
We use TSM client on our servers to backup WMQI related databases and app databases in real-time mode.
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jonny
PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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So If I don't backup the configuration manager or its database, and if I had to rebuid the configuration manager and its database, and then try to register it with the existing broker that was registered witht he old configuration manager, wouldn't this cause a probelm? I just want some confirmation that there is no need to backup the configuration manager database.
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kirani
PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, it would cause the problem. But in that case you can always re-create your Broker and re-deploy the BAR files.
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jonny
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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It looks like the best backup and recovery strategy is to only backup the CVS repository where the message flows and message sets are, so in case of recvery just recreate the broker and the configuration manager and then register the broker, recreate execution groups, and the final step redeploy the bar files... This is sounds good to me, it will save us the headach of backing up the configuration manager and the broker database. But imagine if we have a big number of brokers and execution groups, As you know registering the broker and the creation of execution groups must be done using the toolkit, so this step cannot be automated, and it means it will take longer to recover out environment. What is the best backup and recovery strategy for a more complex environment.
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