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| MQRR |
 Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 1:00 pm Post subject: Different architectures |
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Hi,
could you guys share your ideas about having the following architectures in the workflow system. And if you are implementing how they are working , what are the components that u have installed on the client side and server side. I am mentioning scenorio below. Thanks
Client has WSAD and the development is bieng done
and it is connecting to the server which has WF Server (runtime
database sits here ofcourse)
idea is: I can have MQ Server on client side (with Websphere app server) and MQServer + MQWF server on server side and then using cluster technology in the configuration settings i could connect these two machines.
Any ideas or comments or practical implementations going on.
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| Ratan |
| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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What do you mean by 'client'? A person using your application or a developer (as you are talking about WSAD) or the WAS server hosting your webclient.
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| MQRR |
| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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ratan,
Client = the developer machine and also it has WSAD(i.e application server) on developer machine and then connects to Server for runtime database
Hope this makes the question more clear
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| Ratan |
| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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In that case I would use MQClient on developer machines to connect to WF server. I am not an MQ expert, but I would not like to have QMs on developer machines in the same cluster as the development platform.
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| MQRR |
| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| any ideas how the WSAD interacts with MQ on the developer machine(like if I have different configurations) |
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| Ratan |
| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Config ID.
I suppose you will be installing MQWF runtime libraries on developer machines.
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| sshaker |
| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
It is not a good idea to have MQ Qmgr on developers machine unless the organization has enough licenses. I assume it counts towards the MQ license. Even otherwise, it should be good enough to install MQ client and communicate with MQ client-server communication with the workflow server which will have MQ Qmgr installed on it. Hope this helps.
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| MQRR |
| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 11:27 am Post subject: |
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hi shaker,
the solution you gave is right one. and everyone is suggesting that and even I feel that it is the right one.
I have few questions for you if we can implement the aarchitecture with MQ client on developer machine, do you have an idea how this goes are you implementing this in you work area. The configuration info would help me. And main thing is I do not have much knowledge with WSAD. I am not able to figure out how WSAD is figuring out which config it has to use. As for as my i understanding WSAD should tie itself with the MQ Client or MQ server whichever we are using on the developer machine so that it can talk to MQServer sitting on the Server machine and which in turn talks to WF Server.
Did I Confuse you 
ratan,
can u explain what are MQWF runime libraries
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| MQRR |
| Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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hey guys,
when i sat and analyzed the complete flow, what I concluded is the .ear file that is generated while we configure the webclient on developer box (which has WSAD) is the one that connects the WSAD, webclient and MQ.
This is how it goes: when u deploy the .ear file generated by webclient ex:fmcohcli.ear , on to the WSAD server then with help of the XML file in .ear WSAD knows which Webcomponent you are requesting ( the context root in XML) i.e When you type http://localhost:9080/<contextRoot>/RTC.html
Then from then on the rest of the flow is as you all know the webclient knows which QM to connect to. So on.
This is what I understood. Can anyone please give any suggestions or comments.
I have one problem here, the theory looks good , but when I am deploying .ear file on to the Server in WSAD serve is giving null pointer exceptions.
I guess someone should be having this kind of set up since developers need it. they cant install everything(MQ+MQWF server) on one machine ?
Any help is appreciated.
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