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emiranda
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:26 am    Post subject: 2 QMs running with different users - AS/400 Reply with quote

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Hi all.

We have to run 2 qmgrs (Production and QA) in the same AS/400 box, but for security reasons, they can't run both with the QMQM userid. We are thinking something like QMQM and QMQA.

Is there a way to do that?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Since the AS/400 is part of the Distributed codebase and none of the others will work that way, my GUESS is that will not work.
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emiranda
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mrlinux,

I'm not expert in AS/400, so, could you please be more specific?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well what I mean by distributed code base is that Windows/Unix(except unixware)/as400
are all derived from the same MQSeries Source code and since the other ones wont run from 2 different ID's, I am making a leap of faith that neither will as400, I could be wrong.
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AS/400 may have things similar to OS/390 subsystems.

If that's the case, he may be able to run different instances of MQSeries, each hosting one queue manager using it's own ID.
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Yes Jeff.

I did the same analogy you did. But the problem is how to do that!
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Well the OS390 queue manager is a completely different code base, so
comparing the functions of OS390 are not the same.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mrlinux wrote:
Well the OS390 queue manager is a completely different code base, so
comparing the functions of OS390 are not the same.


Yes, I know. But I've seen some stuff here that suggested to me that the AS/400 may have the capability to run two separate instances of MQSeries. And certainly, I think you'll agree with me that one can run two copies of the Windows queue manager on the same machine. Under Windows emulation, that is.

But, sorry emiranda, I'm not an AS/400 expert, or even an AS/400 novice. So I don't know how.
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I agree if you run VMWARE or virutal PC you can do that, but then you truly arent running them from one OS, and from my little expiernce with AS400 MQSeries is hooked into the OS Level features fairly tight and it
doesnt look to me like you can trick it. Of course if they have some software that is works like VMWARE or virtual PC, then maybe.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mrlinux wrote:
I agree if you run VMWARE or virutal PC you can do that, but then you truly arent running them from one OS, and from my little expiernce with AS400 MQSeries is hooked into the OS Level features fairly tight and it
doesnt look to me like you can trick it.


Sounds like you know more about it than I do.

mrlinux wrote:
Of course if they have some software that is works like VMWARE or virtual PC, then maybe.
THESE ARE JUST MY OPINIONS !!!!!!


Mine too. No worries.
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Thank you guys.

I'll try to go further in this issue, maybe some AS/400 internals, don't know...

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