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belchman |
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:23 am Post subject: setmqm not present in MQv7.5 for AIX? |
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We are working on upgrading MQ for AIX v7.0.1.7 to MQv7.5.0.5. We previously tried to get the app to work against MQv8.0.0.2 for AIX and that failed. So we are trying with MQV7.5.0.5 for AIX.
So on this system, we now have 3 sets of binaries; MQ for AIX v7.0.1.7 (Installation), MQ for AIX v8.0 (Installation1) and MQ for AIX v7.5 (Installation2).
The immediate question I have is, Is there supposed to be an executable /this/that/MQ/7.5/usr/mqm/bin/setmqm so that I can migrate my v7.0.1.7 queue manager to Installation 2?
To do this for MQv8, i just ran /this/that/MQ/8.0/usr/mqm/bin/setmqm -m MyQMgr -n Installation1
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[ mqm@myHost:/this/that/MQ/7.5/usr/mqm/bin ]
$ ls set*
setmqenv setmqinst |
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belchman |
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:32 am Post subject: |
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belchman |
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:35 am Post subject: |
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This is what I installed WEBSPHERE_MQ_FOR_AIX_V7.5_IFR2_EI.tar.tgz and ( I am 98% sure that) the exact same installp method installed it. _________________ Make three correct guesses consecutively and you will establish a reputation as an expert. ~ Laurence J. Peter |
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mqjeff |
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Can you make a 7.0.1 installation anything other than the primary installation... ?

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belchman |
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:38 am Post subject: |
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case "$version" in
"7.5")
installp -R /this/that/MQ/7.5 -acgXYd /repos/mq/v7.5/aix/server all
lslpp -l -R ALL | grep mqm
;;
"8.0")
installp -R /this/that/MQ/8.0 -acgXYd /repos/mq/v8/aix/server all
lslpp -l -R ALL | grep mqm
;;
esac |
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belchman |
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:40 am Post subject: |
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mqjeff,
According to the books, no. So we are not trying to do that. As we migrate, we are just pointing to to the MQ version that should be used. At the end, we will remove 7.0.1.* and set the primary appropriately. _________________ Make three correct guesses consecutively and you will establish a reputation as an expert. ~ Laurence J. Peter |
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exerk |
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:42 am Post subject: |
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With regard to what mqjeff said, the 7.0 will always be the primary installation, but that doesn't stop you migrating a queue manager in place. There's THIS in the Info Centre in regard to migration from 7.0 to 7.5, but I'm pretty sure you can't 'backwards' migrate from 8.0 to 7.5 as the migration will introduce additional objects and attributes that 7.5 wouldn't recognise. Or am I misinterpreting what you wrote? _________________ It's puzzling, I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like this before...and it's hard to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys. |
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mqjeff |
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Ok, sorry. I didn't remember what the setmqm command did.
I think that trying to move a queue manager from another installation into a 7.0.1 installation would mean migrating a queue manager to a lower version. So it's not clear what you would use setmqm for in 7.0.1.
Also, since 7.0.1 didn't have any notion of coexisting installs, it seems reasonably clear that it wouldn't have a setmqm.
So are you trying to move the queue manager from v7.0.1 to v8? Then use the v8 setmqm?
Are you trying to move the queue manager from v8 to v7.0.1? then delete it and recreate it. |
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belchman |
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:48 am Post subject: |
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I will read what you said exerk but will offer this.
1) we never made v8 primary, we executed v8/setmqm on another queue manager and it failed app certification so we backed that out to v7.0
2) We then installed v7.5 because is appears to be more forgiving with how old apps are and created a copy of the qmgr in item 1 above (with new name) as a v7.0.1.7 qmgr
3) when we try to issue /this/that/MQ/7.5/usr/mqm/bin/setmqm -m Item2Qmgr there is no setmqm executable there.
4) when we try /this/that/MQ/8.0/usr/mqm/bin/setmqm -m Item2Qmgr, it throws AMQ5687: setmqm is not executing from installation 'Installation2'. _________________ Make three correct guesses consecutively and you will establish a reputation as an expert. ~ Laurence J. Peter |
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belchman |
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:01 am Post subject: |
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mqjeff says
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Also, since 7.0.1 didn't have any notion of coexisting installs, it seems reasonably clear that it wouldn't have a setmqm. |
Its not MQ7.0.1 that does not have the setmqm, it is 7.5. Thats why i am asea.
I said
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Also, since 7.0.1 didn't have any notion of coexisting installs, it seems reasonably clear that it wouldn't have a setmqm. |
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belchman |
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:03 am Post subject: |
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I am an idiot
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Is there supposed to be an executable /this/that/MQ/7.5/usr/mqm/bin/setmqm so that I can migrate my v7.0.1.7 queue manager to Installation 2? |
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mqjeff |
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Philip Morten |
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Are you sure that you have installed the 7.5 server fileset, do you have the other server commands ( e.g crtmqm, strmqm)? _________________ Philip Morten
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belchman |
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:54 am Post subject: |
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The issue was resolved by uninstalling MQV7.5, deleting the installables, reextracting the installables from the tar zip and reinstalling.
I suspect one or more of the install bundles were hosed.
Thanks all for your help. I really appreciate it. _________________ Make three correct guesses consecutively and you will establish a reputation as an expert. ~ Laurence J. Peter |
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