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MQ_Lover
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:25 am    Post subject: Message Segmentation Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Hi All,

I am doing some testing for large messages over MQ, I know that is not recommended but we have some business requirements here, trying to test that with RFHUtil selected Segment Allowed, Yes and Message in a Group option in MQMD tab and in Main tab selected Logical Order and unticked New Msg ID, but doesn't works and says - Message is too large for queue manager QMgr max=4194304 Queue max=-10 messages added from 1 files - Any suggestion please what I am missing?

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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Looks like the max for the qmgr is still set at 4 MB. You need to up that to 100 MB and up the max msg size on the DLQ to 100 MB as well.

Also remember svrconn defaults and ways around them...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Apparently, the segment you are attempting to create is greater than the QMgr max=4194304.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Thanks bruce2359 and fjb_saper - I have increased the Queue Manager MAXMSGL to 30 MB but still not working - 2030 Message too large for queue (check q and qm settings) QMgr max=31971520 Queue max=-1
0 messages added from 1 files

I am putting message on a alias queue which points to a remote queue on same Queue Manager which further points to a local queue on a remote Queue Manager and message will travel across by Sender/Reveiver channel.

Also the message size is 19 MB.
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What is the size of the message (segment) you are creating?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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hi bruce2359 - I don't think I am doing anything creating the message segment size really, what I have done is using RFHUTIL, I am trying to upload this 19MB message on the Queue from a text file and I have just checked the option of Segment(Yes and Allowed) on the MQMD tab, after increasing the MAXMSGL for the Queue Manager to 30 MB
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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I tried to follow this document - http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21405730 and ensured as specified in this document - "When a message is too big for a queue, and the length of the message data is greater than the maximum message length of a queue, the queue manager will break the message up into segments when the MQMF_SEGMENTATION_ALLOWED and MQPMO_LOGICAL_ORDER options are specified in the putting application for a version 2 MQMD" - still do I need to do something more for segmentation to work?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did you set MQGI_NONE, as described here http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv7/v7r0/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.mq.csqzal.doc%2Ffg12700_.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Hi bruce2359,

I beleive so I have done that and reset the Group Id to be all zero's in RFHUTIL still doesn't works.
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