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| smdavies99 |
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A gentle reminder to the IBMer's.
Can we make sure the inforcentre is available from the same day the Electronic downloads become available.
From my memory (groan) when V7 came out the docs weren't ready for some time.
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| Gaya3 |
| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| smdavies99 wrote: |
A gentle reminder to the IBMer's.
Can we make sure the inforcentre is available from the same day the Electronic downloads become available.
From my memory (groan) when V7 came out the docs weren't ready for some time. |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| smdavies99 wrote: |
| A gentle reminder to the IBMer's. |
Best way to get the attention of the doc team is to file a feedback on the v7 info centre. |
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| Esa |
| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:51 pm Post subject: Re: WebSphere Message Broker V8 |
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* New Data Format Description Language (DFDL) based parser and graphical data mapper tooling for text and binary data
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Does anybody know if there are existing implementations of DFDL? I could not find any. But I found some interesting links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Format_Description_Language
http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/
DFDL only defines how you describe the data, which means the mapper will be IBM proprietary. I do hope the user interface will inherit from WTX rather than Message Brokers current mapper which nobody wants to use. |
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| mqmatt |
| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:24 am Post subject: |
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The mapper and the modelling editor are different things.
In WMB V8, both the DFDL component and the mapper are designed as separable components, and will be used in multiple products.
(I must say, I've used the new mapper a bit and it's pretty nice. It's quite different to the old mapper and very usable. But I do appreciate its ability to call out to custom ESQL functions when things get hairy  ) |
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| Esa |
| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:10 am Post subject: Re: WebSphere Message Broker V8 |
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| mqmatt wrote: |
We'll also be covering everything at the WebSphere Technical Conference in Berlin next week. |
Will that be session M37? |
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| mqmatt |
| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:33 am Post subject: |
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That's right. I'll be covering M37 at 1.30pm on Tuesday, which is the general V8 update.
Other sessions will go into more detail; we've updated to include V8 content throughout. The WMB agenda is as follows (though subject to change)
Monday 15:00 - 16:15............M07 Effective Application Development In WebSphere Message Broker
Monday 16:45 - 18:00............M27 WebSphere Messaging and Connectivity Featured Session + Panel Q & A
Tuesday 09:00 - 10:15...........M13 Introduction to WebSphere Message Broker
Tuesday 10:45 - 12:00...........M08 Extending WebSphere MQ and WebSphere Message Broker to the Cloud
Tuesday 13:30 - 14:45...........M37 What's New In WebSphere Message Broker
Tuesday 15:00 - 16:15...........M18 WebServices and REST Support in WebSphere Message Broker
Tuesday 16:45 - 18:00...........M21 WebSphere Message Broker File Processing Options
Wednesday 10:45 - 12:00......M23 WebSphere Message Broker: Designing for Performance
Wednesday 13:30 - 16:45......ML3 WebSphere Message Broker: Hands-on Lab
Wednesday 13:30 - 14:45......M24 WebSphere Message Broker: Modeling and Parsing Business Data
Wednesday 15:00 - 16:15......M25 WebSphere Message Broker: Monitoring, Auditing, Repair and Replay
Wednesday 16:45 - 18:00......M26 WebSphere Message Broker: Selecting the Right Transformation Options
Thursday 09:00 - 10:15..........M22 WebSphere Message Broker Security
Thursday 10:45 - 12:00..........M10 Implementing WebSphere Message Broker in .NET Environments
Thursday 13:30 - 14:45..........M06 Effective Administration In WebSphere Message Broker
Thursday 13:30 - 14:45..........M23 WebSphere Message Broker: Designing for Performance (Repeat)
Friday 10:45 - 12:00...............M22 WebSphere Message Broker Security (Repeat) |
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| kimbert |
| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:33 am Post subject: |
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| I must say, I've used the new mapper a bit and it's pretty nice. |
Seconded. I'm quite impressed with the new mapping editor.
Same applies to the experience of modelling a data format - the DFDL editor is a big improvement over the message definition file editor. ( before anyone accuses me of bias, I'm just passing on comments from others ). |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:23 am Post subject: |
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| kimbert wrote: |
| before anyone accuses me of bias |
Drat. |
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| andypiper |
| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| zpat wrote: |
| Are WMB v8 and WMQ v7.1 available in IBM Passport advantage now? |
... now look, I know our announcement letters are a bit dull (and that's why it's lovely that Matt comes over here to tell you about them!) but the info is all there 
WMB v8 electronic General Availability is scheduled December 9th, per the letter; WMQ v7.1 is on a slightly different schedule and should hit your Passport Advantage around or just after November 11th.
As Matt says, we'll be talking all about both new releases at the WebSphere Technical Conference in Berlin next week... looking forward to it. Both the WMQ and WMB teams have done brilliant things (again!). |
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| andypiper |
| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
| smdavies99 wrote: |
| A gentle reminder to the IBMer's. |
Best way to get the attention of the doc team is to file a feedback on the v7 info centre. |
Correct - although @IBMHursleyUTD is on Twitter as well... and I will go round the corner and point certain individuals at this discussion thread for good measure |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| andypiper wrote: |
| I know our announcement letters are a bit dull (and that's why it's lovely that Matt comes over here to tell you about them!) but the info is all there |
The problem is that you're faced with a group of rugged technologists who will crawl over broken glass before reading the documentation. Many of whom are a bunch of colonials who don't need no stinkin' documentation at the best of times. 
I now wait patiently for death to come from one side or the other, drawing comfort only from the fact that I saw the dates in the letter... 
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| andypiper wrote: |
| Correct - although @IBMHursleyUTD is on Twitter as well... |
So it's got you lot too eh?
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| I will go round the corner and point certain individuals at this discussion thread for good measure |
You're a kindly man. Have pity for those of us who have simply gone round the bend. Or so far north something called "lake effect snow" is going to increase the depth of the wretched stuff.
Me, suicidal? No. But ask again in 2 months....
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| kash3338 |
| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Is there any upgrade to the ESQL coding language? Something like Objects to hold the state of the messages and store in Broker cache?
Also, is there any new nodes for generalizing the error handling mechanism? New features in these areas would be great. |
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| mqmatt |
| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Broker cache is pretty high on our list but won't be there at GA time. Some folks have solved the problem in WMB 7 using WebSphere Extreme Scale or the XC10 appliance... you might want to investigate that.
For generalised error handling, deployable subflows should help there: encapsulate the common logic within a single subflow, and then deploy and manage it only once for your whole application.
Thanks! |
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