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mqjeff
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You don't entirely need to be a "java" guy to use the JMSInput node.

I know at least one customer that has used JMSInput nodes to do exactly this, pull messages from a "less secure" zone into a "more secure" zone.

Using the JMSInput node does require a more complicated configuration than just entering in a queueManager and queue name. But it should also perform at least somewhat better than 5 msgs per second. It might not manage 160... but it should do better than 5.

There is a sample for using the JMS nodes. It includes documentation and descriptions.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am not stating beliefs just requirements.

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MQInput is ideal but client wants messages to be pulled across a network boundary instead of being pushed to broker qmgr. Hence; more secure network tier pulling from less secure network tier
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It's puzzling... I'm trying to understand the requirement.

Does the requirement state no point-to-point channels? No transmission queues? This implies a SVRCONN channel on the non-broker qmgr, and the broker behaving as a client app with IA97. Client channels are not stellar performers, as compared to mq point-to-point channels.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
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MQInput is ideal but client wants messages to be pulled across a network boundary instead of being pushed to broker qmgr. Hence; more secure network tier pulling from less secure network tier
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It's puzzling... I'm trying to understand the requirement.


The requirement is to have a known secure server fetch exactly that data that it believes it can handle safely, rather than having an open door for unknown data from unknown systems to be submitted willy-nilly.

Whether or not this is valid requirement is likely a separate discussion.

IA97 also comes with source. Someone who *is* a Java person could spend some time with this and provide some input into why you are seeing the performance you are seeing.

Or, again... you could spend a bit of time with the JMS samples and see if you can get those working to fulfill this need instead.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
IA97 also comes with source. Someone who *is* a Java person could spend some time with this and provide some input into why you are seeing the performance you are seeing.


FWIW my Java guy tried this unsuccessfully.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As discussed use the JMS Input Node to pull the messages from the remote queue, it should easily fulfill your performance requirements (see WMB Performance Reports), they are proven and part of the product. As discussed the supportpac you mention is little used from what i have seen.

I wrote this a while back, its a little old now but most should still be relevant plus see the JMS Sample:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/techarticles/0610_bicheno/0610_bicheno.html
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