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WannaBeInAParker
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:10 am    Post subject: Extended Transactional Client - Require its use? Reply with quote

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Is there any way through configuration of a SVRCONN channel to require that all connections are using the ET Client? If not through configuration is the information available through an exit? That is can I determine if the client program is using the ET client and if not reject the connection?

Any help is appreciated
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Give the Extended Transactional clients their own channel(s), and the non-ET clients their own channel(s), and control it by CCDT. Further lock it down with SSL and use unique SSLPEER values in the client certificates (values that distinguish whether a client using that certificate is ET or not), or use a commercial exit (I'm sure Roger will be along in a minute to recommend just the thing ).
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Extended Transactional Client - Require its use? Reply with quote

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WannaBeInAParker wrote:
Is there any way through configuration of a SVRCONN channel to require that all connections are using the ET Client?

Polite question : why?
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WannaBeInAParker
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, a very good question. I work for a company that as a rule, does not allow client channels. We have allowed them on a limited basis for internal users, but have locked them down to only access a small subset of queues and have the blockip msg exit installed to only allow access from certain IPs. We are discussing MQSeries communication with an external company over a leased line and they are pushing to use a client channel with the ET Client on their end. I understand that even if we force the external user to use the ET, they can still simply put the messages out of syncpoint essentially falling back to the default client. However, forcing the use of the ET on our end makes management feel better about allowing the use of client channels for external access.

I hope this helps
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mvic
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks.

IMHO users/groups/setmqaut/security exits are the MQ way to do this.

Or SSL perhaps.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mvic wrote:
IMHO users/groups/setmqaut/security exits are the MQ way to do this. Or SSL perhaps.


Yes, to control access to a channel, but this does not control usage of ET. A Receive Exit or Send Exit will expose the lower level MQ protocols and can be used to detect if ET being used, and control access. I don't know of any exits on the market that do this.
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mvic
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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gbaddeley wrote:
Yes, to control access to a channel, but this does not control usage of ET.

Agreed, but restricting to ETC is not a "reasonable" requirement.

Included in the scope of "reasonable" is the concept of "maintainable and usable into the foreseeable future".

IMHO, of course.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WannaBeInAParker wrote:
Yes, a very good question. I work for a company that as a rule, does not allow client channels. We have allowed them on a limited basis for internal users, but have locked them down to only access a small subset of queues and have the blockip msg exit installed to only allow access from certain IPs. We are discussing MQSeries communication with an external company over a leased line and they are pushing to use a client channel with the ET Client on their end. I understand that even if we force the external user to use the ET, they can still simply put the messages out of syncpoint essentially falling back to the default client. However, forcing the use of the ET on our end makes management feel better about allowing the use of client channels for external access.

I hope this helps
Jack


You don't need MQETC to have MQ Clients use syncpoint on its puts and/or gets.

An app using MQETC is under no obligation to use syncpoint on its puts and/or gets.
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