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WMBDEV1
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Base wrote:
mqjeff wrote:
Try manually entering the queue name, and then PUT or GET or whatever.


Does not work either.



Any clues (MQRC) as to why this time?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WMBDEV1 wrote:
Any clues (MQRC) as to why this time?


Sorry - dont understand that.

ATM I have connected my MQM with the remote MQM via sender and receiver channel. Now I am able to use rfhutil (server) to connect to my local MQM which will pass my messages to the remote MQM.

But I think this is not the best practice.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Base wrote:
WMBDEV1 wrote:
Any clues (MQRC) as to why this time?


Sorry - dont understand that.


MQ REASON CODE - what is returned by WMQ in response to what you ask of it.
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sumit
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Base wrote:
ATM I have connected my MQM with the remote MQM via sender and receiver channel. Now I am able to use rfhutil (server) to connect to my local MQM which will pass my messages to the remote MQM.


There are 2 differnet approaches that you are following.
1. Using rfhutil
2. Using rfhutilc (used for client connections)

I read your posts, but I am not clear with your exact requirement.
a) Why you used rfhutilc first and later tried rfhutil?
b) Do you want to connect to a remote queue manager (when you used rfhutilc)?
c) What's the aim of your configuration?
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Base
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sumit wrote:
I read your posts, but I am not clear with your exact requirement.
a) Why you used rfhutilc first and later tried rfhutil?
b) Do you want to connect to a remote queue manager (when you used rfhutilc)?
c) What's the aim of your configuration?


a) I want to port my flows from a Broker running on my local machine (Windows XP) to an remote machine (with z/os). For my local stuff I am using rfhutil to connect to my local installed broker.
b) Yes - ATM I want to connect to a remote QM. Therefore I am using rfhutilc (better - I tried it).
c) see a)

My current solution is that I am using my local QM to reach the remote QM via transmission queues. With this I cann use rfhutil to connect to my local QM with rfhutil and there I can use the remote queues on the remote QM. But rfhutil (server) is jeust connected to my local QM. Anything else is done via the transmission queue in QM.

I did this workaround because I was not able to connect rfhutilc with my remote QM directly.

@exerk The Problem is that I dont know much about the Broker on z/os so I dont know how to gain the MQ Reason Code from there.
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Base wrote:
@exerk The Problem is that I dont know much about the Broker on z/os so I dont know how to gain the MQ Reason Code from there.


When you say 'port' your flows, do you mean getting the bar files on to the z/OS platform?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nearly - the problem is that I have to change them a bit because I have to emulate something in XP. On z/os I have all the functions and just have to remove something.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nearly? This is like pulling teeth! Please explain exactly what it is you are trying to do, then maybe, we'll have a better idea of how to help you do it, because we seem to be way outside the scope of the original problem.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok - I am working on WBI-FN which is based on WMB. And WBI-FN is not designed for XP. After developing my stuff I am now porting it to z/os. More I am not allowed to say. If you want to know more and you work at the companoy with the 3 big blue letters you can write me a PM.

Nevertheless - I think this is not such important to my problem that rfhutilc cannot connect to remote QM directly. I just want to reach some queues on a remote QM - no flows involved. As I said before much of these is new and I need 1-2 hints more to get it
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You just deploy things to zOS the same as you deploy anywhere else.

You just connect to a qmgr on zOS the same as you connect to a qmgr anywhere else, provided the qmgr is properly set up to let you do this.

You should go talk to your zOS MQ administrator. They have the time and incentive to help you despite your unwillingness to do proper troubleshooting and problem description. Nobody here does.
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WMBDEV1
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Base wrote:
If you want to know more and you work at the companoy with the 3 big blue letters you can write me a PM.


This really isnt in the spirit of the forum and now looks like your after some free consultancy from IBM. Good luck with that
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Base
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hm...

the problem is that the stuff I am working on is confidential. The next thing is that I am a student working an my diploma thesis at the already mentioned company. So my priority level for getting help is not as high as a normal employee will have (that is my impression). And I have to collect lots of information by myself. There wasn't a trainee or something like this with all these products so I am sorry that I cannot answer all questions.

Nevertheless - I don't get the point of this statement:
"your unwillingness to do proper troubleshooting" - It is not my intent to "hide" something...

If it is not possible to deal with this than you can close or delete this topic - sorry for the wasted time...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Base wrote:
Nevertheless - I don't get the point of this statement:
"your unwillingness to do proper troubleshooting" - It is not my intent to "hide" something...


No?

What Reason Code does rfhutilc provide when you try to use a manually entered queue name?

All you've said so far is that it "doesn't work". That's not proper troubleshooting.

You are not in any different situation on this forum than you are in your internship nor in your doctoral program. You have to do all the heavy lifting. We'll just tell you to lift with your legs, not your back, and don't try to put the heavy boxes on top of the light boxes, so that you can pile them higher and deeper.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
What Reason Code does rfhutilc provide when you try to use a manually entered queue name?


As I already answered one page before. rfhutilc does not produce any reason code. It just put the following message in the output window "16.21.17 Error getting queue names". As far as I see it produces no log files so I don not know where to get these reason code from rfhutilc.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Base wrote:
It just put the following message in the output window "16.21.17 Error getting queue names".


Even when you attempt to write to the manual queue name? This is most odd.
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