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| Xephorr |
 Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:30 am Post subject: Create queue concept |
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Hi All,
Is there an efficient way (other than going about doing manually) to create more than 250 queues for a particular queue manager? I'm asking you this question for the concept sake and i appreciate if anybody would answer me this question.
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| WMBDEV1 |
| Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Are the queues of the form QUEUENAME.XXX where XXX is a number? Maybe you could write something to generate the mqsc scripts based on this? OR again. if u have a list of qnames in electronic form you could generate mqsc scripts from this.
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| Jade Harv |
| Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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You can make of scripting languages to implement the automated logic or use some macros.
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| Sam Uppu |
| Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:34 am Post subject: Re: Create queue concept |
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| Xephorr wrote: |
Hi All,
Is there an efficient way (other than going about doing manually) to create more than 250 queues for a particular queue manager? I'm asking you this question for the concept sake and i appreciate if anybody would answer me this question.
Thank you very much. |
Not sure why do you want to do that?.
If you have some kind of sequencing number in your queue naming then you can write a subroutine and call that routine in your script.
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| sumit |
| Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:05 am Post subject: Re: Create queue concept |
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| Xephorr wrote: |
| Is there an efficient way (other than going about doing manually) to create more than 250 queues for a particular queue manager? |
Do you want to use these 250 queues (huge number) permanently. IF not, you can opt for permanent dynamic queue. So, your application will make a queue whenever it needs to put messages in it (will not work if your application wants to 'get' messages from queue).
This will indeed save your time from making 250 queues or writing any code for that. But you need to take care to delete these queues as soon as your program is done with it's work. You can modify your code to delete the queues before exiting.
You can get better responses if you can poste your requirement.
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| exerk |
| Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: Re: Create queue concept |
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| sumit wrote: |
| ...if not, you can opt for permanent dynamic queue. So, your application will make a queue whenever it needs to put messages in it... |
Only needs to be permanent dynamic if the messages are persistent.
| sumit wrote: |
| ...(will not work if your application wants to 'get' messages from queue)... |
Yes it will, if it's a Reply-To queue - and see above.
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| ...But you need to take care to delete these queues as soon as your program is done with it's work... |
Really  so you don't think it's an application responsibility to clear up after itself? How do you as an Admin know when an application has finished with a queue? Do you just delete queues on a whim?
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| sumit |
| Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:37 am Post subject: Re: Create queue concept |
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| exerk wrote: |
| sumit wrote: |
| ...But you need to take care to delete these queues as soon as your program is done with it's work... |
Really so you don't think it's an application responsibility to clear up after itself? How do you as an Admin know when an application has finished with a queue? Do you just delete queues on a whim? |
it's the code which will delete the code and not the admin. That's why I wrote the next line as
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no intentions to create any confusion.
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| Vitor |
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As an aside, I'll point out it's important for an application to clear up on all possible exits, including an abend.
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| exerk |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| As an aside, I'll point out it's important for an application to clear up on all possible exits, including an abend. |
Ever seen one that does? 
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| exerk wrote: |
| Vitor wrote: |
| As an aside, I'll point out it's important for an application to clear up on all possible exits, including an abend. |
Ever seen one that does? |
Yes. After I explained to the development team the importance of doing it. Specifically what would happen if I had to clean up their leftovers from the queue manager one more time.
 
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| exerk |
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Did anyone film it? Is it on YouTube somewhere?
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| Vitor |
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| exerk wrote: |
| Did anyone film it? Is it on YouTube somewhere? |
Days before YouTube my young apprentice. In many ways a shame; one of my better rants even if I say so myself.
Yes, there were days before YouTube. There were days before Google....
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| exerk |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| ...There were days before Google.... |
Indeed...some people on this board still have not discovered it 
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