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EnOne
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:23 am    Post subject: Message flows not showing in V5 AIX Reply with quote

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I seem to keep on having a peculiar problem with V5 on AIX. Occasionaly a message flow will be deployed to an execution group but it does not show under Domains in the Broker Administration Perspective. I can still see it using the mqsilist -e command and if I deploy the same message flow to the same execution group a second instance of the same message flow appears.

Is there a way to remove a single message flow from an execution group using the command line in AIX? How do you remove a message flow from an execution group if the message flow does not show in the Broker Administration Perspective? (other than rebuilding the execution group)[/b]
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

Try doing a complete deploy to the broker to see if the CMGR syncs up with the broker

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You may have a "rogue execution group". Try searching for that on the support site, there are instructions on how to fix it.
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EnOne
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I found this on the IBM support site about rogue execution groups it is what I was seeing

http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21171291

we did this to remove the old execution group then it was rebuilt. It would be nice to have more control of the execution groups and the messages within them from the command line.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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njpeeke wrote:
I found this on the IBM support site about rogue execution groups it is what I was seeing

http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21171291

we did this to remove the old execution group then it was rebuilt. It would be nice to have more control of the execution groups and the messages within them from the command line.


What do you mean by rogue execution groups?
Are they the one which does not execute message flows.please give me some more information on this.

Thanks
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EnOne
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rogue execution group: an execution group that refuses to allow a message flow to be removed from it.

It's not that it won't process message flows but that it won't stop processing message flows. The message flow will be shown as removed from the Domains window within the Broker Administration Perspective but the message flow will still process messages. The only way to see the message flow is to run mqsilist [broker] -e [rogue execution group] this will allow you to see the message flow but it will not give you the ability to remove it.

Does this clarify?
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rkford11
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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njpeeke wrote:
rogue execution group: an execution group that refuses to allow a message flow to be removed from it.

It's not that it won't process message flows but that it won't stop processing message flows. The message flow will be shown as removed from the Domains window within the Broker Administration Perspective but the message flow will still process messages. The only way to see the message flow is to run mqsilist [broker] -e [rogue execution group] this will allow you to see the message flow but it will not give you the ability to remove it.

Does this clarify?


Thanks njpeeke. your reply clarifies all my doubts.
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sorn73
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I also have this roblem with rogue flows/execution groups, where I can see multiple instances of a flow, but I can only remove one instance. And the duplicates continue to process message. However, I'm not at liberty to remove the entire execution group, as this is a production environemt. Is there any may to remove a rogue flow without deleting the entire execution group?
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EnOne
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Currently, No.

We use the mqsilist function to perodically check our execution groups but other than deleting the entire execution group then rebuilding it and redeploying all of the message flows we are yet to find a way to fix this.
We use dual execution groups in production for just this purpose so we do not have an outage during deploys or rebuilding.

It would be nice to have a command line interface that would remove a single message flow from an execution group but it does not exist yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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njpeeke wrote:
It would be nice to have a command line interface that would remove a single message flow from an execution group but it does not exist yet.

I think the Config Mgr Proxy API in v6 lets you do this.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jefflowrey wrote:
njpeeke wrote:
It would be nice to have a command line interface that would remove a single message flow from an execution group but it does not exist yet.

I think the Config Mgr Proxy API in v6 lets you do this.

mqsideploy ... -d flowname1:flowname2 ....
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EnOne
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We're still on V5 but it's nice to know that there is a fix in V6 when we eventually upgrade.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Couldn't you use the -rm* flags on the v5 mqsideploy command?
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-rmMsgFlow msgFlowName' remove specified deployed message flow.
-rmMsgSet msgSetName' remove specified deployed message set.
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pganpath
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:46 am    Post subject: Message flow showing in AIX even when deleted from Toolkit Reply with quote

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I am having the same problem as below. Has any one found a cure?? Help appreciated!
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I seem to keep on having a peculiar problem with V5 on AIX. Occasionaly a message flow will be deployed to an execution group but it does not show under Domains in the Broker Administration Perspective. I can still see it using the mqsilist -e command and if I deploy the same message flow to the same execution group a second instance of the same message flow appears.

Is there a way to remove a single message flow from an execution group using the command line in AIX? How do you remove a message flow from an execution group if the message flow does not show in the Broker Administration Perspective? (other than rebuilding the execution group)[/b]
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mqmatt
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To remove flows from the commandline in v5, you should usually use mqsideploy -rmMsgFlow - but this only works on Windows. On V6 you can use mqsideploy -d or a Config Manager Proxy application.
If you get a phantom message flow appearing in the runtime that is not reflected in the toolkit, you need to use the 'Remove deployed children' option on the execution group, or (again) use the Config Manager Proxy.
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