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jeremydp
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 Forum: Multiphase Commit Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:46 am Subject: Re: 2PC? |
[quote="bruce2359
A brief restatement: endmqm ends the qmgr, NOT your applications.
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Thank you, that is how I understood it. That it only relates to the QMgr. But thank you for th ... |
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jeremydp
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Forum: Multiphase Commit Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:29 am Subject: 2PC? |
Your lack of understanding of the product is at issue here.
Yes, this is certainly a big factor!
I don't want to make you Sys Admin cringe, but what if I do not use the Fail_If_Quiescing optio ... |
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jeremydp
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Forum: Multiphase Commit Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:08 am Subject: Re: 2PC? |
You guys... Trust me I have been reading in the manuals. But I find them to not contain a lot of depth. That being said, it is putting all of the little pieces together to get the full answer.
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jeremydp
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Forum: Multiphase Commit Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 2:16 pm Subject: Re: 2PC? |
Again many thanks!
While I have read the MQGET with respect to the the Syncpoint and Fail_If_Quiescing options I did not read the order of operations. Meaning by using Syncpoint does it allow me t ... |
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jeremydp
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Forum: Multiphase Commit Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:03 pm Subject: Re: 2PC? |
Bruce, are you saying that MCA is not going to solve my dilemma either?
While I appreciate the training link (it seems it has been changed to: http://www.ibm.com/products/finder/us/finders?pg=trfin ... |
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jeremydp
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Forum: Multiphase Commit Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:22 am Subject: Re: 2PC? |
| Thank you all for your input. It's back to reading for me. |
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jeremydp
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Forum: Multiphase Commit Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:26 am Subject: Re: 2PC? |
Really? WMQ does not allow MQCOMIT/MQBACK to work between multiple QMgrs?
It baffles me that I have a unique need. Is there some other technique to accomplish this need?
Yes.
Allow MQ itsel ... |
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jeremydp
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Forum: Multiphase Commit Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:09 am Subject: Re: 2PC? |
Really? WMQ does not allow MQCOMIT/MQBACK to work between multiple QMgrs?
It baffles me that I have a unique need. Is there some other technique to accomplish this need?
If I do a Put then pur ... |
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jeremydp
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Forum: Multiphase Commit Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:41 am Subject: Re: 2PC? |
What you (and your application) will have are separate UofW's:
1) your app MQGETting a msg from a local qmgr and MQPUTting a msg to a transmission queue
2) the message channel agent on the Sending ... |
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jeremydp
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Forum: Multiphase Commit Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:17 am Subject: Re: 2PC? |
What exactly is your business requirement? Are you trying to make changes to queues on two qmgrs inside a single UofW?
Business requirement is to Get a message from a QMgr, convert it, then Put it ... |
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jeremydp
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Forum: Multiphase Commit Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:57 am Subject: Re: 2PC? |
In my situation I will have two syncpoints.
Taking a step back, why do you want 2 syncpoints? It's an invitation to data loss.
I thought I need a syncpoint for each action. Since I will be get ... |
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jeremydp
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Forum: Multiphase Commit Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:18 am Subject: Re: 2PC? |
Again I'll ask: have you read the APR and APG on MQCMIT and MQBACK?
Yes, I have. But I do not completely understand it. I appreciate your patience with me.
Here is what it says:
The MQCMIT ... |
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jeremydp
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Forum: Multiphase Commit Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:49 am Subject: Re: 2PC? |
Just a note here. If you're only doing transactions with WMQ, you're not doing 2PC. You're doing single-phase commits to a single resource manager, no XA needed or involved.
And if you're only t ... |
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jeremydp
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Forum: Multiphase Commit Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:17 pm Subject: Re: 2PC? |
OK, after some reading I have more questions...
Did you read the WMQ Application Programming Reference and the WMQ Application Programming Guide for the MQBEGIN, MQCMIT and MQBACK calls?
My unders ... |
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jeremydp
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Forum: Multiphase Commit Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:26 pm Subject: Re: 2PC? |
OK, after some reading I have more questions...
Not sure if I mentioned this, but I am coding in .Net.
Please tell me if I have these right:
The Begin, Commit, and Back are at the queue manag ... |
