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  Topic: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Wally

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PostForum: Clustering   Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:47 am   Subject: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Ok, after getting all the Hint & Tips from you I started some more test on it. Still I can see/discover my message which should have been sent out the the off-line qmgr - any commands issued on an ...
  Topic: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Wally

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PostForum: Clustering   Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:05 pm   Subject: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
In some, but not all of your narrative, you say "Check status > S1: SCTQ empty"


Empty means no message is the queue when browsing with MQ Explorer.


I'm thinking that it's your a ...
  Topic: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Wally

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PostForum: Clustering   Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:48 pm   Subject: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
has not run its state synch process a message could be lost.

For the record, which process is this? I've never heard of it. All I know about is the workload balancer, which doesn't hold state that ...
  Topic: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Wally

Replies: 38
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PostForum: Clustering   Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:41 am   Subject: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
I have checked again: seems the message only get lost in a situation where previous messages have been distributed across my two target qmgrs and then shutting them down.
Are you saying that you loo ...
  Topic: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Wally

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PostForum: Clustering   Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:28 am   Subject: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Is this a new application?

Let's do a simple test.
1. Stop the clussdr channel on the qmgr where you run the application.
2. Any messages in the SCTQ?
3. Run the application putting exactly 3 ...
  Topic: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Wally

Replies: 38
Views: 20491

PostForum: Clustering   Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:15 am   Subject: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
I just discovered another strange thing: when i stop both T1 and T2 and try send 4 messages via S1 only 3 are kept in the SCTQ and again the first message is lost - how strange is this ??

Which 3? ...
  Topic: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Wally

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PostForum: Clustering   Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:41 am   Subject: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
the message should stay in the S.C.T.Q - no ??
Yes, presuming that a message was created AND the message didn't expire OR end up in a dead-letter queue.

MQ doesn't lose messages.

I thought this ...
  Topic: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Wally

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PostForum: Clustering   Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:38 am   Subject: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster

How do you mean "targeted"? If a message is addressed to a given queue manager it bypasses the cluster workload distribution.


I mean targeted in sence of round-robin would try to send ...
  Topic: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Wally

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PostForum: Clustering   Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:24 am   Subject: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Now I am lost - just waited 5 minutes before sending messages and all messages arrived at the on-line qmgr - no loss !?!?

Ok, if MQ is not recognizing the channel failure in time at least the messa ...
  Topic: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Wally

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PostForum: Clustering   Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:57 am   Subject: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster

How long a time? It will take a discussed and documented period for the channels to notice the failure.


I wait like 30 seconds, but at least the time until the Explorer come back with the messa ...
  Topic: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Wally

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PostForum: Clustering   Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:41 am   Subject: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster

First, queues are neither persistent nor non-persistent - messages are.

Is the SCTQ really named S1.SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE?

What queue does your application open?

Sorry for the con ...
  Topic: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Wally

Replies: 38
Views: 20491

PostForum: Clustering   Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:33 am   Subject: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
So when I run the "failover test" I stop the complete qmgr T1; wait a time and then again try to send messages.

Changing the System.Cluster.Transmit.Queue to persistant does help either. ...
  Topic: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Wally

Replies: 38
Views: 20491

PostForum: Clustering   Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:17 am   Subject: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
So I had a look into the S1.SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE, but saying this it looks like this is by default non-persistant - will modify this to persistant and run my test again. The message should be ...
  Topic: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Wally

Replies: 38
Views: 20491

PostForum: Clustering   Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:01 am   Subject: Re: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster

I'd expect the message to be in the SCTQ rather than lost. Does the message have expiry set?

It should work within limits. There have been a number of discussions on using a WMQ cluster for this ...
  Topic: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Wally

Replies: 38
Views: 20491

PostForum: Clustering   Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:19 am   Subject: Message loss with failover in MQ V7 Cluster
Hello out there,

- I do run a small test MQ v7 cluster on a single Windows box
- I have 3 QMGRs named T1, T2 and S1 listening on ports 1501, 1502 and 1503
- T1 and T2 are ...
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